Automatic Updates



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07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close or restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every half hour or so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.

Thank you

Galen
07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
In news:nRPie.1409422$8l.586391@pd7tw1no,
--- <no@spam.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close
> or restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every
> half hour or so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.
>
> Thank you

Nope. It's a pain isn't it? Drives me completely batty at times because when
I say I don't want to reboot I mean just that.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

Alias
07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote

> --- <no@spam.com> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close
>> or restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every
>> half hour or so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.
>>
>> Thank you
>
> Nope. It's a pain isn't it? Drives me completely batty at times because
> when I say I don't want to reboot I mean just that.
>
> Galen

That's like saying you don't want to fall after you've fallen off the
building. Just reboot and finish what you started.

Alias

"Swallow your pride. You will not die. It is not poison."

- B. Dylan

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
--- wrote:
> After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close
> or restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every
> half hour or so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.
>
> Thank you

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PA Bear
07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
Yes: Reboot.
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"---" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close or
restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every half hour or
so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.

Thank you

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I don't understand why people are so obsessed with NOT rebooting when
instructed to do so.

So, they don't reboot and keep on using the computer. Then 2 hours later
they clean out their temp folders. Three hours after that they shut off the
computer. The next time they start the computer the system can not finish
what it started because the temp files are GONE. Then they come here
complaining about how Window Update screwed their computer.

Just reboot and get it over with. Unless you are running SQL server in a
banking environment, and can't shut down for 2 minutes, there is no reason
not to!

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"---" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:nRPie.1409422$8l.586391@pd7tw1no...
After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close or
restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every half hour or
so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.

Thank you

Galen
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
In news:%23dqKhnAXFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Just reboot and get it over with. Unless you are running SQL server
> in a banking environment, and can't shut down for 2 minutes, there is
> no reason not to!

Or if you're compiling something while the updates are installing and
downloading or the like and you can't really reboot at that time without
really ruining your work. In my case I am on dialup (which makes me the
exception these days as opposed to the norm) because I've absolutely no
method of getting broadband that I can tollerate. (I won't accept the FUP
from the satellite service providers.) So, when I'm downloading (and then
installing) updates I'm actually busy doing something else and often on the
same PC. It ends. I tell it no, I'm not ready to reboot. It then prompts me
again. I tell it no. It prompts me again. I tell it no. I'm reminded of my
son asking for a cookie. So, I can see why some people don't want to reboot
until, say, the end of their work day or when they're done with the work
that they're doing and at the same time they want the feature of downloading
the updates automatically in the background.

As another view... Some people, I'm certainly not one of them concerned
about time any longer, work on a PC for a living and rebooting takes time
and time is money. Rebooting when the PC would normally be rebooted will
save time and hence save money. As per another post yeah those are still
some of the same people who would do such things as clean the computer
before rebooting to install an update. I'll not stoop to the level of
calling those people names. <g> BUT maybe they shouldn't DO such things?

I guess it's a call of functionality. When you tell the computer not to do
something it shouldn't do it and it surely shouldn't keep bugging you about
it. When you install an application that requires rebooting and tell it that
you don't want to reboot now (for any reason you pick) it doesn't sit there
and bug you to reboot. It just goes and sits quietly in the corner. Sure, if
you go delete the registry run once keys that might be included with the
install or try to use the application it's not going to work and might break
something but that's a problem with the end user. Rebooting because I just
installed the latest WMI Installer package isn't a pressing issue if I've no
intentions of using it for the remainder of my time that day and, if I do,
I'll be sure to reboot before I do so. Being nagged about it constantly if I
opted to not reboot at that time is not beneficial, effective, and adds no
function to the OS for me.

Personally I think it's a method meant to dumb down the OS which, to be
honest, is required in my opinion. As more people use computers the average
level of the computer user goes down. (Sort of like when they add more
baseball teams there's more places available on professional teams and thus
the quality of the players goes down in general.) I think that the prompt is
a good thing and should be the default settings. Heck, I think it should bug
you even more often than that. However, I'd like to be able to convince the
OS, at some level, that I'm aware that I need to reboot but I haven't time
nor inclination to do so at this point and have it listen to me when I tell
it no. I guess this stems from my days of yore, I'm probably one of the only
*NIX to Windows convert you'll ever meet, and I happen to like the ability
to make stuff listen even if it's not the default settings.

As a small aside, I've become a Windows fanatic throughout the years
because, to be frank, it's just easier. Security is not an issue as the
premise is education and awareness as well as prevention. Both OSes can be
made secure and the effort lies in the user. I can tell you that it's far
easier to use the silly mouse (I never used one for the longest time and
still tend to use the keyboard even now) to configure a firewall with a
handy-dandy GUI then it is to set IPTables for instance. I can also add, to
give a truer sense of the valuation as far as I'm concerned, that Fallout 2
simply would not play in WINE no matter how hard I tried.

Anyhow, it's not a matter of right or wrong I don't think. It's a matter of
choice and being able to get the PC to do as asked the first time or at
least having a work-around to get the desired results.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

WTC
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ouoju7$WFHA.828@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> In news:nRPie.1409422$8l.586391@pd7tw1no,
> --- <no@spam.com> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> After performing an automatic update, I get a prompt to either close
>> or restart now. If I pick close, I keep getting the prompt every
>> half hour or so until I reboot. Is there a way to disable this.
>>
>> Thank you
>
> Nope. It's a pain isn't it? Drives me completely batty at times
> because when I say I don't want to reboot I mean just that.
>


Even with Group Policy, the maximum it will let you to change the
re-prompt time is 30 minutes.

--
William

Leif Nordmand Andersen
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Hi B Dylan,

>That's like saying you don't want to fall after you've fallen off the
>building. Just reboot and finish what you started.

To some of us, the computer actually sometimes work, and a reboot will
seriously interupt the work - It's not all fun, some is work ;-)

Then this nagging is very ANOYING and untimely!!!

Regards Leif

Leif Nordmand Andersen
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Hi Richard,

On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:29:52 -0400, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I don't understand why people are so obsessed with NOT rebooting when
>instructed to do so.

Sometimes the computer is actually working - and you cannot interrupt
this work, without having to restart.

Just now my computer is formatting a raid 5 with 6x250 GB disks, this
takes 33 hours. I can't just reboot!! and this blinking thing keeps
nagging me, something with Microft installer 3.1 I believe

So for at working computer it can be anoying.

Regards Leif.

Bob I
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
I'll bet it really tee's you off when you have to stop driving the car
to change the oil too.

Leif Nordmand Andersen wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:29:52 -0400, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't understand why people are so obsessed with NOT rebooting when
>>instructed to do so.
>
>
> Sometimes the computer is actually working - and you cannot interrupt
> this work, without having to restart.
>
> Just now my computer is formatting a raid 5 with 6x250 GB disks, this
> takes 33 hours. I can't just reboot!! and this blinking thing keeps
> nagging me, something with Microft installer 3.1 I believe
>
> So for at working computer it can be anoying.
>
> Regards Leif.
>

kurttrail
07-10-2005, 12:35 AM
Leif Nordmand Andersen wrote:
> Hi B Dylan,
>
>> That's like saying you don't want to fall after you've fallen off the
>> building. Just reboot and finish what you started.
>
> To some of us, the computer actually sometimes work, and a reboot will
> seriously interupt the work - It's not all fun, some is work ;-)
>
> Then this nagging is very ANOYING and untimely!!!
>
> Regards Leif

Is someone actually forcing you to use AutoUpdate? If so, bitch to
them!

http://www.microscum.com/comsense/

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PA Bear
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
You can configure Automatic Updates to download updates but to let you
choose when to install them, Leif.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Leif Nordmand Andersen wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:29:52 -0400, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why people are so obsessed with NOT rebooting when
>> instructed to do so.
>
> Sometimes the computer is actually working - and you cannot interrupt
> this work, without having to restart.
>
> Just now my computer is formatting a raid 5 with 6x250 GB disks, this
> takes 33 hours. I can't just reboot!! and this blinking thing keeps
> nagging me, something with Microft installer 3.1 I believe
>
> So for at working computer it can be anoying.
>
> Regards Leif.

Alias
07-10-2005, 12:36 AM
You can also disable AU and go visit the WU site every second Wednesday if
you live in Europe and Tuesday if you live in the USA.

I think the OP just wanted to let us all know what a hot shot computer user
he is.

Alias

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote
> You can configure Automatic Updates to download updates but to let you
> choose when to install them, Leif.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>
> Leif Nordmand Andersen wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> On Wed, 18 May 2005 20:29:52 -0400, "Richard Urban"
>> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand why people are so obsessed with NOT rebooting when
>>> instructed to do so.
>>
>> Sometimes the computer is actually working - and you cannot interrupt
>> this work, without having to restart.
>>
>> Just now my computer is formatting a raid 5 with 6x250 GB disks, this
>> takes 33 hours. I can't just reboot!! and this blinking thing keeps
>> nagging me, something with Microft installer 3.1 I believe
>>
>> So for at working computer it can be anoying.
>>
>> Regards Leif.
>

Leif Nordmand Andersen
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Hi

>Is someone actually forcing you to use AutoUpdate? If so, bitch to
>them!

Finally I 'got into your hands too' :-)

Anyway you're right, it's my choise to use autoupdate not to miss any.

Just wish Microsoft would take NO for NO :-)

Regards Leif.

Leif Nordmand Andersen
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Hi

On Fri, 20 May 2005 01:24:54 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com>
wrote:

>You can configure Automatic Updates to download updates but to let you
>choose when to install them, Leif.

Acutally that is not a bad idea :-)

thanks.

Regards Leif.

PA Bear
07-10-2005, 12:37 AM
YW. See:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306525

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security

Leif Nordmand Andersen wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 01:24:54 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You can configure Automatic Updates to download updates but to let you
>> choose when to install them, Leif.
>
> Acutally that is not a bad idea :-)
>
> thanks.
>
> Regards Leif.


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