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tami
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot with a 9x
start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c: drive. Is there any
way I can pull files from this hard drive??
Tami

Yves Leclerc
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
Any Windows 9x/ME boot disk will not be able to read any NTFS formatted XP
hard drives. You may be able to get your files if you can set up your drive
as "slave" drive onto a working XP system.


"tami" <tami@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DD84980-5A63-4026-9139-CB420885F1E4@microsoft.com...
> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot with a
> 9x
> start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c: drive. Is there
> any
> way I can pull files from this hard drive??
> Tami

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
"tami" <tami@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DD84980-5A63-4026-9139-CB420885F1E4@microsoft.com...
> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot with a
9x
> start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c: drive. Is there
any
> way I can pull files from this hard drive??
> Tami

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
tami wrote:
> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot
> with a 9x start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c:
> drive. Is there any way I can pull files from this hard drive??
> Tami

Tami, you can install your hard drive as the slave drive in another machine
with XP. The operating system of the other machine will be able to look for
files on your hard drive, provided it spins and the surface has not been
damaged.

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
T. Waters wrote:

> tami wrote:
>> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot
>> with a 9x start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c:
>> drive. Is there any way I can pull files from this hard drive??
>> Tami
>
> Tami, you can install your hard drive as the slave drive in another
> machine with XP. The operating system of the other machine will be
> able to look for files on your hard drive, provided it spins and the
> surface has not been damaged.

Just to add to Mr. Waters' good advice - sometimes a working XP
installation will not boot with a damaged slave hard drive. If that is
the case, you can use Knoppix, a Linux distro on a live cd. You will
need a computer with two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a
usb thumb drive with enough capacity to hold your data. To get Knoppix,
you need a computer with a fast Internet connection and third-party
burning software. Download the Knoppix .iso from www.knoppix.net and
create your bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see
the Windows files. If you will be using the usb thumb drive to copy
your data, plug it in before you boot the system with Knoppix.
Otherwise, use the K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
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NoStop
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Malke wrote:

> T. Waters wrote:
>
>> tami wrote:
>>> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot
>>> with a 9x start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c:
>>> drive. Is there any way I can pull files from this hard drive??
>>> Tami
>>
>> Tami, you can install your hard drive as the slave drive in another
>> machine with XP. The operating system of the other machine will be
>> able to look for files on your hard drive, provided it spins and the
>> surface has not been damaged.
>
> Just to add to Mr. Waters' good advice - sometimes a working XP
> installation will not boot with a damaged slave hard drive. If that is
> the case, you can use Knoppix, a Linux distro on a live cd. You will
> need a computer with two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a
> usb thumb drive with enough capacity to hold your data. To get Knoppix,
> you need a computer with a fast Internet connection and third-party
> burning software. Download the Knoppix .iso from www.knoppix.net and
> create your bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see
> the Windows files. If you will be using the usb thumb drive to copy
> your data, plug it in before you boot the system with Knoppix.
> Otherwise, use the K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.
>
> Malke
Naughty, naughty ... you mentioned the "L" word. Shame on you! Want to give
Linux a bad name?

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andy smart
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Yves Leclerc wrote:
> Any Windows 9x/ME boot disk will not be able to read any NTFS formatted XP
> hard drives. You may be able to get your files if you can set up your drive
> as "slave" drive onto a working XP system.
>
>
> "tami" <tami@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DD84980-5A63-4026-9139-CB420885F1E4@microsoft.com...
>
>>My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot with a
>>9x
>>start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c: drive. Is there
>>any
>>way I can pull files from this hard drive??
>>Tami
>
>
>
You can get boot disks which allow you to access NTFS drives - try
looking at Barts Boot Disks (can't remember the URL, you'll have to
search in Google) or bootdisks.com. We had to do this at work once and
my colleague found a bootdisk which would do what he wanted.

Jack
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Linux will most certainly be able to read the files and burn them to a cd
for you, however, you might try repairing the boot sector on the hard drive
from the XP recovery console (fixboot and fixmbr)

I would really try that 1st. as Linux is not real easy to set up unless you
are familiar with the distros and burning ISO files.

"NoStop" <nostop@stopspam.com> wrote in message
news:alrie.1389678$Xk.970551@pd7tw3no...
> Malke wrote:
>
>> T. Waters wrote:
>>
>>> tami wrote:
>>>> My hard drive crashed and I need to pull files from it. I can boot
>>>> with a 9x start disk but it does not recognize any hard drive or c:
>>>> drive. Is there any way I can pull files from this hard drive??
>>>> Tami
>>>
>>> Tami, you can install your hard drive as the slave drive in another
>>> machine with XP. The operating system of the other machine will be
>>> able to look for files on your hard drive, provided it spins and the
>>> surface has not been damaged.
>>
>> Just to add to Mr. Waters' good advice - sometimes a working XP
>> installation will not boot with a damaged slave hard drive. If that is
>> the case, you can use Knoppix, a Linux distro on a live cd. You will
>> need a computer with two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw OR a
>> usb thumb drive with enough capacity to hold your data. To get Knoppix,
>> you need a computer with a fast Internet connection and third-party
>> burning software. Download the Knoppix .iso from www.knoppix.net and
>> create your bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see
>> the Windows files. If you will be using the usb thumb drive to copy
>> your data, plug it in before you boot the system with Knoppix.
>> Otherwise, use the K3b burning program to burn the files to cd/dvd-r's.
>>
>> Malke
> Naughty, naughty ... you mentioned the "L" word. Shame on you! Want to
> give
> Linux a bad name?
>
> --
> Is Firefox still safer than IE?
> http://windowssecrets.com/comp/050512/#story1
>

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Jack wrote:

> Linux will most certainly be able to read the files and burn them to a
> cd for you, however, you might try repairing the boot sector on the
> hard drive from the XP recovery console (fixboot and fixmbr)
>
> I would really try that 1st. as Linux is not real easy to set up
> unless you are familiar with the distros and burning ISO files.
>

Actually, Knoppix is quite easy to use - all you have to do is boot with
the cd and you will be put in a gui that will be pretty familiar to
Windows users - but you are right about burning the .iso's. It really
depends on the OP's skill level what will work for her. Since she was
posting via the web interface and hasn't come back, let's hope she just
took the machine to a local professional instead. ;-)

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

tami
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
Thanks for all the advice guys, I did take the system to a professional and
he offered to do the job for a large fee. I am somewhat computer savy and
will try your suggestions. Another prob, and I did try on 2 working PC's, is
when the HD is connected as a slave the minute I plug in the power supply,
it shuts the whole system down! So I'll try these suggestions and let you
know how or if anything works.
Tami

"Malke" wrote:

> Jack wrote:
>
> > Linux will most certainly be able to read the files and burn them to a
> > cd for you, however, you might try repairing the boot sector on the
> > hard drive from the XP recovery console (fixboot and fixmbr)
> >
> > I would really try that 1st. as Linux is not real easy to set up
> > unless you are familiar with the distros and burning ISO files.
> >
>
> Actually, Knoppix is quite easy to use - all you have to do is boot with
> the cd and you will be put in a gui that will be pretty familiar to
> Windows users - but you are right about burning the .iso's. It really
> depends on the OP's skill level what will work for her. Since she was
> posting via the web interface and hasn't come back, let's hope she just
> took the machine to a local professional instead. ;-)
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

NoStop
07-10-2005, 12:33 AM
tami wrote:

> Thanks for all the advice guys, I did take the system to a professional
> and he offered to do the job for a large fee. I am somewhat computer savy
> and will try your suggestions. Another prob, and I did try on 2 working
> PC's, is when the HD is connected as a slave the minute I plug in the
> power supply, it shuts the whole system down! So I'll try these
> suggestions and let you know how or if anything works.
> Tami
>
What do you mean plug in the power supply? If you mean connecting the power
lead to the hard drive, your computer should not be running when you do
this! In fact, before changing anything within the computer you should have
it unplugged from the wall.

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Malke
07-10-2005, 12:34 AM
tami wrote:

> Thanks for all the advice guys, I did take the system to a
> professional and he offered to do the job for a large fee. I am
> somewhat computer savy and will try your suggestions. Another prob,
> and I did try on 2 working PC's, is when the HD is connected as a
> slave the minute I plug in the power supply, it shuts the whole system
> down! So I'll try these suggestions and let you know how or if
> anything works. Tami
>

That's too bad the pro wanted to charge you a "large fee", although what
you and I consider "large" might be different. ;-) The information
above indicates there might be a physical problem with the hard drive,
so if the data on it is very important you want to get it off right
away and not play around with the drive any more than necessary. I
would hesitate to put this drive in a nicely working machine! If you
have a testbed box, try it in there and go the Knoppix route.

If the data is very important and you can't boot a testbed computer with
that hard drive, then you really don't have a choice about sending the
drive to a professional data recovery firm. It is very unlikely that a
local computer repair shop would be able to handle this. When I can't
get data off a customer's drive, I suggest they contact DriveSavers
(www.drivesavers.com), but that *definitely* costs a lot. Only you can
determine the worth of your data.

Best of luck to you,

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


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