Everest 2.0



Alias
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with some
features like Software have been stripped off and are now only available for
paying customers.

Alias

T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:O2pdqbuWFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with some
> features like Software have been stripped off and are now only available
for
> paying customers.
>
> Alias
>
>

S.Sengupta
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Post to the original thread.

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Alias wrote:

> If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with some
> features like Software have been stripped off and are now only available for
> paying customers.
>
> Alias
>
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
S.Sengupta wrote:
> Post to the original thread.

What do you mean? Alias wasn't part of any previous thread about
Everest. Or are you just assuming that he saw any previous thread about
Everest?

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Alias
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
This *is* the original thread.

Alias

"S.Sengupta" <ssengupta_@msn.com> wrote

> Post to the original thread.
>
> regards,
> ssg MS-MVP
>
> Alias wrote:
>
>> If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with some
>> features like Software have been stripped off and are now only available
>> for paying customers.
>>
>> Alias

Galen
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
"Alias" wrote:

> If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with some
> features like Software have been stripped off and are now only available for
> paying customers.
>
> Alias

Thanks for the heads up. Lately I've been using Belarc for the most part
anyhow but now I know not to download the new version. Okay, so this is
really just me seeing what it's like to have gone through the web interface
so that I know how it works and what it looks like for the people who are
using it.

Galen

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Alias wrote:
> This *is* the original thread.
>

There was a thread yesterday that announced the release of the new
Everest version, by Peter Foldes.

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Galen wrote:
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>> If you have a previous version, don't update. It's a downgrade with
>> some features like Software have been stripped off and are now only
>> available for paying customers.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Thanks for the heads up. Lately I've been using Belarc for the most
> part anyhow but now I know not to download the new version. Okay, so
> this is really just me seeing what it's like to have gone through the
> web interface so that I know how it works and what it looks like for
> the people who are using it.
>
> Galen

Sucks, Doesn't it?

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Alias
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote

> Alias wrote:
>> This *is* the original thread.
>>
>
> There was a thread yesterday that announced the release of the new Everest
> version, by Peter Foldes.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt

I didn't notice it out of the hundreds of threads posted yesterday. I
regularly delete all the messages in this newsgroup and yesterday I deleted
over 3500 of them. I found out about it by downloading the new one, running
it to see what software is on my machine. I called a friend who first told
me about it and on his version, you had that feature. So, I uninstalled it;
he sent me the older version via AIM and I installed and ran it and, sure
enough, it listed all my software.

Alias

T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
I ran the "new" Everest yesterday and was surprised to find that the
resulting report was a smaller file size than the old report I had saved.
New = not necessarily better.

Alias wrote:
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>> This *is* the original thread.
>>>
>>
>> There was a thread yesterday that announced the release of the new
>> Everest version, by Peter Foldes.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>
> I didn't notice it out of the hundreds of threads posted yesterday. I
> regularly delete all the messages in this newsgroup and yesterday I
> deleted over 3500 of them. I found out about it by downloading the
> new one, running it to see what software is on my machine. I called a
> friend who first told me about it and on his version, you had that
> feature. So, I uninstalled it; he sent me the older version via AIM
> and I installed and ran it and, sure enough, it listed all my
> software.
>
> Alias

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Don't download the "new" WinAmp either.

Alias
"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:ONOtsswWFHA.2740@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>I ran the "new" Everest yesterday and was surprised to find that the
> resulting report was a smaller file size than the old report I had saved.
> New = not necessarily better.
>
> Alias wrote:
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> This *is* the original thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There was a thread yesterday that announced the release of the new
>>> Everest version, by Peter Foldes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>
>> I didn't notice it out of the hundreds of threads posted yesterday. I
>> regularly delete all the messages in this newsgroup and yesterday I
>> deleted over 3500 of them. I found out about it by downloading the
>> new one, running it to see what software is on my machine. I called a
>> friend who first told me about it and on his version, you had that
>> feature. So, I uninstalled it; he sent me the older version via AIM
>> and I installed and ran it and, sure enough, it listed all my
>> software.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
>

Galen
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
In news:uc1hyXwWFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
kurttrail <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Sucks, Doesn't it?

Vile. Worse than I'd thought it was going to be. I'm going to make a good
deal of effort to absolutely never do that again actually. I've seen some
strange stuff but that was one of the silliest experiences I've had in my
life. My post took a good half hour before appearing. I went ahead and used
associated a passport with this email address and that simply stopped in the
process of creating it for no reason that I could tell but at least it was
after the point of hitting the okay button and agreeing to the terms (I got
a 404 and refresh quite happily told me that there was already an account
with that name so it seems to have made the account though failed to want to
tell me about it's doing so.) It was slow. One bad thing is that it has the
cross posting hidden in the advanced posting sections which is probably why
people are, as of late, more inclined to multi-post through the CDO
interface. One good thing is that people CAN use it I suppose. Some people
aren't interested in using NNTP and configuring a client. At least they have
that as an option.

Galen
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with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Alias wrote:
> Don't download the "new" WinAmp either.

The reason being?

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T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
Galen wrote:
> In news:uc1hyXwWFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> kurttrail <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Sucks, Doesn't it?
>
> Vile. Worse than I'd thought it was going to be. I'm going to make a
> good deal of effort to absolutely never do that again actually. I've
> seen some strange stuff but that was one of the silliest experiences
> I've had in my life. My post took a good half hour before appearing.
> I went ahead and used associated a passport with this email address
> and that simply stopped in the process of creating it for no reason
> that I could tell but at least it was after the point of hitting the
> okay button and agreeing to the terms (I got a 404 and refresh quite
> happily told me that there was already an account with that name so
> it seems to have made the account though failed to want to tell me
> about it's doing so.) It was slow. One bad thing is that it has the
> cross posting hidden in the advanced posting sections which is
> probably why people are, as of late, more inclined to multi-post
> through the CDO interface. One good thing is that people CAN use it I
> suppose. Some people aren't interested in using NNTP and configuring
> a client. At least they have that as an option.
>
> Galen

Galen people use the CDO because they are taken to it by Windows Help and
Support. One moment, they are looking for instructions on their problem, the
next moment, they are entering a Newsgroup with no idea how to make it work.
Here is another CDO horror story:
I was using CDO back in January 2004, when the server went down for
approximately 5 days. True story. I eventually went to the Library to make
sure it was not my ISP, and verified it was the server. This got me to using
OE.
Another horror story:
I believe it has changed, but the CDO used to blithely request an email
address, which was posted for all bots to read. Users desperate to a
solution to an acute problem often assuned this field was required to get
help, and willingly filled in the field with their real email address.

Kenny S
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
ignore the netcop

there is one thing worse than a spammer.. and thats a netcop



"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:OPk6ZbwWFHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>> This *is* the original thread.
>>>
>>
>> There was a thread yesterday that announced the release of the new
>> Everest version, by Peter Foldes.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>
> I didn't notice it out of the hundreds of threads posted yesterday. I
> regularly delete all the messages in this newsgroup and yesterday I
> deleted over 3500 of them. I found out about it by downloading the new
> one, running it to see what software is on my machine. I called a friend
> who first told me about it and on his version, you had that feature. So, I
> uninstalled it; he sent me the older version via AIM and I installed and
> ran it and, sure enough, it listed all my software.
>
> Alias
>

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote

> Alias wrote:
>> Don't download the "new" WinAmp either.
>
> The reason being?
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt

A lot less features. The new one requires that you pay to get these
features, just like Everest.

Upgrade and take a look but make sure you have the old WinAmp set up before
you do.

Alias

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
Alias wrote:
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>
> A lot less features. The new one requires that you pay to get these
> features, just like Everest.
>
> Upgrade and take a look but make sure you have the old WinAmp set up
> before you do.
>

I don't use any of the features except the ability to play music.

As far as I'm concerned, they could rip just about anything & everything
out of it except the ability to play music file, and play them randomly.

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Alias
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:eFaoeqxWFHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Alias wrote:
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote
>>
>> A lot less features. The new one requires that you pay to get these
>> features, just like Everest.
>>
>> Upgrade and take a look but make sure you have the old WinAmp set up
>> before you do.
>>
>
> I don't use any of the features except the ability to play music.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, they could rip just about anything & everything
> out of it except the ability to play music file, and play them randomly.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt

I like the radio. I have version 5.06. The video is good, too, as it plays
MP4s so I don't have to have quick time on my machine.

Alias

Galen
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
In news:%236oKr%23wWFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
T. Waters <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Galen people use the CDO because they are taken to it by Windows Help
> and Support. One moment, they are looking for instructions on their
> problem, the next moment, they are entering a Newsgroup with no idea
> how to make it work. Here is another CDO horror story:
> I was using CDO back in January 2004, when the server went down for
> approximately 5 days. True story. I eventually went to the Library to
> make sure it was not my ISP, and verified it was the server. This got
> me to using OE.
> Another horror story:
> I believe it has changed, but the CDO used to blithely request an
> email address, which was posted for all bots to read. Users desperate
> to a solution to an acute problem often assuned this field was
> required to get help, and willingly filled in the field with their
> real email address.

Would you say that the CDO interface has improved in it's new form in your
opinion? I'm rather partial to OE personally though I've tried a number of
different newsreader clients over the years and have found that I always
return to OE.

Galen
--

"And that recommendation, with the exaggerated estimate of my ability
with which he prefaced it, was, if you will believe me, Watson, the
very first thing which ever made me feel that a profession might be
made out of what had up to that time been the merest hobby."

Sherlock Holmes

T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
Yes, I went to the CDO just now and find that it is graphically much better
than 16 months ago. Further, I believe the CDO runs is a lot faster than
before. And previously, Search was offered, but it only worked for me one
time out of at least 50 tries (nothing happened when I clicked the link).
Now, Search works. And yet...
It wastes too much space on the page.
You cannot see the time in the header.
The panes are a pain. You can move the border of the header pane, but it
just snaps back.
I remember the paging as a real pain, too.
It is nice to have Search, but I had to use the Back button to get out of
it.
It cannot be customized (much).
etc.
Just really bare-bones and not well thought-out, IMO.
Not designed for daily use, although many people manage to do just that, not
knowing there are options.


Galen wrote:
> In news:%236oKr%23wWFHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> T. Waters <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Galen people use the CDO because they are taken to it by Windows Help
>> and Support. One moment, they are looking for instructions on their
>> problem, the next moment, they are entering a Newsgroup with no idea
>> how to make it work. Here is another CDO horror story:
>> I was using CDO back in January 2004, when the server went down for
>> approximately 5 days. True story. I eventually went to the Library to
>> make sure it was not my ISP, and verified it was the server. This got
>> me to using OE.
>> Another horror story:
>> I believe it has changed, but the CDO used to blithely request an
>> email address, which was posted for all bots to read. Users desperate
>> to a solution to an acute problem often assuned this field was
>> required to get help, and willingly filled in the field with their
>> real email address.
>
> Would you say that the CDO interface has improved in it's new form in
> your opinion? I'm rather partial to OE personally though I've tried a
> number of different newsreader clients over the years and have found
> that I always return to OE.
>
> Galen


Everest 2.0