Win Me upgrade to Win XP Home Edition



Mordido
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only or
best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point I
switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Hi Mordido,

You were told wrong. Just do the upgrade as intended. You can always go back
and do a format and clean install if you like, but there is absolutely no
reason not to go the upgrade route. If you really want to go the destructive
route, just boot the WinXP CD and at the point where it chooses the
installation location, instead delete the existing system partition. Then
create a new one from the free space, format, and proceed with the
installation.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Mordido" <Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4C536151-9C1E-458B-B420-2A97FFC6ED2F@microsoft.com...
>I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only
> or
> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point
> I
> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23oSzcvhWFHA.3240@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Mordido,
>
> You were told wrong. Just do the upgrade as intended. You can always go
> back and do a format and clean install if you like, but there is
> absolutely no reason not to go the upgrade route.

Oops, yes there is. If the machine isn't clean of malware what happens,
Rick?

If you really want to go the destructive
> route, just boot the WinXP CD and at the point where it chooses the
> installation location, instead delete the existing system partition. Then
> create a new one from the free space, format, and proceed with the
> installation.

You mean "best route".

Alias
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Mordido" <Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4C536151-9C1E-458B-B420-2A97FFC6ED2F@microsoft.com...
>>I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
>> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only
>> or
>> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some
>> point I
>> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
>> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?
>
>

S.Sengupta
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Just upgrade will do.

regards,
ssg MS-MVP

Mordido wrote:

> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only or
> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point I
> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
"S.Sengupta" <ssengupta_@msn.com> wrote

> Just upgrade will do.

Maybe, maybe not. A clean install is much surer.

Alias
>
> regards,
> ssg MS-MVP
>
> Mordido wrote:
>
>> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
>> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only
>> or best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some
>> point I switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or
>> reformat and install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Rock
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Mordido wrote:

> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only or
> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point I
> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

A clean install is the only way and not necessarily the best way. An
upgrade will often times work well. And if that doesn't work then you
can always do the clean install. Make sure the system is clean of all
malware and running good prior to the upgrade - upgrading a system with
problems will create more and greater problems. Run the upgrade advisor
too before doing this. And always have a full backup before attempting
it. Look into getting a drive imagaing program such as Norton Ghost or
Acronis True Image. See this link for more information on doing an upgrade:

http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

Ken Blake
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
In news:4C536151-9C1E-458B-B420-2A97FFC6ED2F@microsoft.com,
Mordido <Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows
> XP
> Home Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean
> install is
> the only or best way to go.


You can always find someone who will tell you almost anything. I
completely disagree. Unlike with previous versions of Windows, an
upgrade to XP replaces almost everything, and usually works very
well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind
and reinstall cleanly if problems develop.


> know there's a way that if reinstall
> ME, at some point I switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a
> destructive
> recovery or reformat and install XP clean. Can anyone tell me
> how to
> do that?


If you insist. The requirement to use an upgrade version is to
*own* a previous qualifying version's installation CD (with an
OEM restore CD, see below), not to have it installed. When setup
doesn't find a previous qualifying version installed, it will
prompt you to insert its CD as proof of ownership. Just insert
the previous version's CD, and follow the prompts. Everything
proceeds quite normally and quite legitimately.



You can also do a clean installation if you have an OEM restore
CD of a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but
it *can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the
XP upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Ron Martell
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:

>
>"S.Sengupta" <ssengupta_@msn.com> wrote
>
>> Just upgrade will do.
>
>Maybe, maybe not. A clean install is much surer.
>
>Alias
>

Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

I have done both (clean install and upgrade install) many times, using
Windows Me as the starting point, and in all of these instances the
only repeat only substantive difference was that a clean install was a
real p.i.t.a. because of the additional time required to reinstall and
reconfigure all of the application programs and then to restore all of
my data files from backups.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
> Oops, yes there is. If the machine isn't clean of malware what happens,

One should not be installing anything unless a system is clean. What I am
addressing is the moronic advice to only consider a clean installation.
There is no reason anyone should need to do that unless they choose to. Too
often a new user is told that it is the only way to go, and that's just dead
wrong.

> You mean "best route".

No, I meant destructive route. Again, it's totally unnecessary. The best
route is the one that complicates life the least for the end user.
Reinstalling all your applications and rebuilding all your personal settings
and preferences is not the easy way.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:OsFBoxhWFHA.2060@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23oSzcvhWFHA.3240@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Mordido,
>>
>> You were told wrong. Just do the upgrade as intended. You can always go
>> back and do a format and clean install if you like, but there is
>> absolutely no reason not to go the upgrade route.
>
> Oops, yes there is. If the machine isn't clean of malware what happens,
> Rick?
>
> If you really want to go the destructive
>> route, just boot the WinXP CD and at the point where it chooses the
>> installation location, instead delete the existing system partition. Then
>> create a new one from the free space, format, and proceed with the
>> installation.
>
> You mean "best route".
>
> Alias
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Mordido" <Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4C536151-9C1E-458B-B420-2A97FFC6ED2F@microsoft.com...
>>>I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
>>> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only
>>> or
>>> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some
>>> point I
>>> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
>>> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?
>>
>>
>
>

Alias
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:Ocssc0kWFHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Oops, yes there is. If the machine isn't clean of malware what happens,
>
> One should not be installing anything unless a system is clean.

Most people don't know if their machine is clean or not. Please see the
research done on malware removal/prevention tools. None hit 100%.

Alias

What I am
> addressing is the moronic advice to only consider a clean installation.
> There is no reason anyone should need to do that unless they choose to.
> Too often a new user is told that it is the only way to go, and that's
> just dead wrong.
>
>> You mean "best route".
>
> No, I meant destructive route. Again, it's totally unnecessary. The best
> route is the one that complicates life the least for the end user.
> Reinstalling all your applications and rebuilding all your personal
> settings and preferences is not the easy way.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:OsFBoxhWFHA.2060@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23oSzcvhWFHA.3240@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Mordido,
>>>
>>> You were told wrong. Just do the upgrade as intended. You can always go
>>> back and do a format and clean install if you like, but there is
>>> absolutely no reason not to go the upgrade route.
>>
>> Oops, yes there is. If the machine isn't clean of malware what happens,
>> Rick?
>>
>> If you really want to go the destructive
>>> route, just boot the WinXP CD and at the point where it chooses the
>>> installation location, instead delete the existing system partition.
>>> Then create a new one from the free space, format, and proceed with the
>>> installation.
>>
>> You mean "best route".
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "Mordido" <Mordido@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4C536151-9C1E-458B-B420-2A97FFC6ED2F@microsoft.com...
>>>>I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
>>>> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the
>>>> only or
>>>> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some
>>>> point I
>>>> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
>>>> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mordido
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
This a P.S. Let me explain what happened. Yesteday I ran my Norton 2004
antivirus on my Gateway Mid-tower, Pentium 4 Processor, running Windows XP
Home Edition, upgrade to Windows ME. I also ran my Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE
Plus, SpySweeper, HiJackThis, and finally SpyHunter. Ran CHDKDSK to make all
was well with the system, did a Defrag, rebooted, all seemed well and went to
bed smiling that my system was safe. To note, I use a wireless rounter
upstair and comcast cable, on the computer of which I speak, it's an router
adapter to home network. When I got up the next morning, my system was
either infected with a Trojan virus or a worm. I could access my particular
section, ie. the Gateway computer, using XP, is sectioned to me, my wife, my
son, my daughter, blah, blah. I accessed my Mordido, went to the desktop and
every window files had that appearance they get when they need to be
associated with a file. I was unabled to open any of my virus ware, unable
to access Control Panel, and the worm or Trojan had completely removed Norton
Antivirus 2004, and replaced a Norton popup which kept warning that my
computer was under threat. I contacted McAfee, and purchased McAffe's
Platinum Virus Removal Phone Support for $64. I gave the technician remote
control and he was nonplussed. We tried everything to no avail. Finally,
his last attempt was that he asked if I had any System Disks. He asked
becuase, as stated, we were unable to access anything in Control Panel,
unable to access any Windows Files, we were stuck. I found MS-DOS 6.22. We
were able to install that, do FDISK, and reformat the harddrive. Then he
told me that all I had to do was either reinstall Windows Me, and the do the
upgrade to Windows XP Home Edition. Fine I said. It was late, said goodbye
, and I'd do the rest in the mornging. This morning I tried to install
Windows Me, to eventually install the XP upgrade, but I receeived this error
message: "Invalid System Disk, Replace the disk, and then press any key."
Point, I now can't install even Me on the computer (Gateway) with which it
came. I have MS-DOS 6.22 on my computer down stairs, the Trojan or Worm is
gone I hope, but I can't install because something isn't matching up. I have
Windows Me and Windows XP Home Edition upgrade for Me. Considering what I've
just communicated, how can I get the computer to reinstall either Me, which
is the original system, and then upgrade to XP, or just install XP. I only
want my computer to run an Operating System. Please help.

"Mordido" wrote:

> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only or
> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point I
> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Mordido
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
P.P.S. Additionally, I used a Win 95 Startup disk and did a similar
reformat. So I don't if I've created a monster or not, but I need to know
how to reinstall Me and then upgrade to XP.

"Mordido" wrote:

> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP Home
> Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is the only or
> best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall ME, at some point I
> switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive recovery or reformat and
> install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Rock
07-09-2005, 11:31 PM
Rock wrote:

> Mordido wrote:
>
>> I have Windows ME installed on a computer. I purchased Windows XP
>> Home Edition Upgrade ($98), and now I'm told that a clean install is
>> the only or best way to go. I know there's a way that if reinstall
>> ME, at some point I switch to my XP Cd and it'll do a destructive
>> recovery or reformat and install XP clean. Can anyone tell me how to
>> do that?
>
>
> A clean install is the only way and not necessarily the best way. An
> upgrade will often times work well. And if that doesn't work then you
> can always do the clean install. Make sure the system is clean of all
> malware and running good prior to the upgrade - upgrading a system with
> problems will create more and greater problems. Run the upgrade advisor
> too before doing this. And always have a full backup before attempting
> it. Look into getting a drive imagaing program such as Norton Ghost or
> Acronis True Image. See this link for more information on doing an
> upgrade:
>
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
>

Should have been, "A clean install is _not_ the only way....

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User


Win Me upgrade to Win XP Home Edition