help building computer



Dan
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really know
waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not sure
whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus for the
computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help me and talk to me
about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you know of that
will help me pick out what i all need.
my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon

help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
Dan

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Dan wrote:
> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really
> know waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im
> not sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700
> jus for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help
> me and talk to me about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any
> websites that you know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>
> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
> Dan

Dan, if you are only building a computer to save money, you might be better
off going to a shop and having a computer built to your specs. Otherwise,
you may just have an expensive and frustrating learning experience. If you
are not enough of an aficionado to know in advance what you want, you have a
lot to learn, and it will take some time. Do a Google search for "Build your
own PC" and you will find some great how-to sites. Surf through the
NewEgg.com site for endless education. Do you have any friends who are
system builders? That would be the best way to learn, in my opinion.

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Hi Dan,

> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really know
> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not sure
> whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus for the
> computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help me and talk to
> me
> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you know of
> that will help me pick out what i all need.
> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>
> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
> Dan

www.pcmech.com

This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should be more
than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on how you
plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of hardware
should be forward compatibility with up and coming technology. While you
don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you do want to create a system
that will not be outdated before you even power it on.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

R. McCarty
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big expense.
Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more difficult than
actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.

"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi Dan,
>
>> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really
>> know
>> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not sure
>> whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus for the
>> computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help me and talk to
>> me
>> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you know of
>> that will help me pick out what i all need.
>> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>>
>> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
>> Dan
>
> www.pcmech.com
>
> This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should be
> more
> than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on how
> you
> plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of hardware
> should be forward compatibility with up and coming technology. While you
> don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you do want to create a system
> that will not be outdated before you even power it on.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

Lil' Dave
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Building a current PC is relatively simple compared to 5, 10, and 15 years
ago.
If in your situation, I would start with a big PC case, and a motherboard
with all built into it to avoid add-on cards. You may have to plug-in the
driver for SATA or RAID, at the outset of installing XP, depending if your
motherboard has that or not. The rest is pretty straightforward. Don't
forget to load the motherboard and built-in hardware drivers after
installing XP from the motherboard's driver CD.
You should be concerned about the power supply type related to the
motherboard, and wattage rating both for now and future changes to the PC.
Another is ventilation, get a case with many fan enclosures and use them
all. The larger cases may be called server cases. Ideal if you intend to
expand or experiment. Avoid the stylish, transluscent, lit-up cases.
Overpriced, do nothing for performance or ventilation.
Use widely known brand stuff, like Intel chipset, Crucial memory, Western
Digital hard drive, Plextor CD/DVD, Antec power supply and PC cases, Turtle
Beach sound cards (if no onboard sound), etc. You'll learn to recognize the
widely used and known stuff after awhile for other peripherals and why
they're that way.
I don't suggest the brands above based on performance or reliability, even
though they have good track records. I suggest them for ease of
installation and tech support, both online, written, downloadable written,
and telephone.
The best allaround website both for now, and your future upgrades:
http://www.tomshardware.com/index.html

Read all you can about the motherboard you intend to install, including the
cpu support, supported ram, type of hard drive peripheral support (EIDE,
RAID, or SATA), onboard hardware like video, sound, USB 2.0, Firewire, LAN
etc. This is the heart of the system, and is the basis for the hardware you
connect to it. Asus is probably a good motherboard maker for most. I would
suggest AOpen for the newbie, for allaround ease of assy and installation.
If you intend to play current video games on this PC, I would avoid using
onboard video.
"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE44B6B6-B549-427E-9B70-9F2EDA596041@microsoft.com...
> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really know
> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not sure
> whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus for the
> computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help me and talk to
> me
> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you know of
> that
> will help me pick out what i all need.
> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>
> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
> Dan

HeyBub
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
Dan wrote:
> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really
> know waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im
> not sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700
> jus for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help
> me and talk to me about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any
> websites that you know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>
> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks

For $700 you can get two:

See
www.walmart.com

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:31 AM
"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eHlD2tgWFHA.2572@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
> seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
> will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
> AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
> core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
> two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
> to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
> AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
> worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big expense.
> Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more difficult than
> actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> >> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont really
> >> know
> >> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not
sure
> >> whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus for the
> >> computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help me and talk
to
> >> me
> >> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you know of
> >> that will help me pick out what i all need.
> >> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
> >>
> >> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
> >> Dan
> >
> > www.pcmech.com
> >
> > This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should be
> > more
> > than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on how
> > you
> > plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of
hardware
> > should be forward compatibility with up and coming technology. While you
> > don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you do want to create a system
> > that will not be outdated before you even power it on.
> >
> > --
> > Best of Luck,
> >
> > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> > Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> > www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
>

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:31 AM
To get more value for your $700, do consider AMD processors over the Intels
recommended in another post. Intel used to rule the industry, but that
really isn't the case these days, especially with dual-core, and Pentiums
are somewhat overpriced.

R. McCarty wrote:
> Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
> seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
> will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
> AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
> core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
> two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
> to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
> AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
> worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big expense.
> Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more difficult than
> actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>>> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont
>>> really know
>>> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not
>>> sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus
>>> for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help
>>> me and talk to me
>>> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you
>>> know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
>>> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>>>
>>> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
>>> Dan
>>
>> www.pcmech.com
>>
>> This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should
>> be more
>> than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on
>> how you
>> plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of
>> hardware should be forward compatibility with up and coming
>> technology. While you don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you
>> do want to create a system that will not be outdated before you even
>> power it on.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-10-2005, 12:31 AM
That's all I use now.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:Oy5JFykWFHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> To get more value for your $700, do consider AMD processors over the
> Intels
> recommended in another post. Intel used to rule the industry, but that
> really isn't the case these days, especially with dual-core, and Pentiums
> are somewhat overpriced.
>
> R. McCarty wrote:
>> Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
>> seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
>> will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
>> AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
>> core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
>> two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
>> to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
>> AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
>> worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big expense.
>> Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more difficult than
>> actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.
>>
>> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>>> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont
>>>> really know
>>>> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not
>>>> sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus
>>>> for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help
>>>> me and talk to me
>>>> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you
>>>> know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
>>>> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>>>>
>>>> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>> www.pcmech.com
>>>
>>> This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should
>>> be more
>>> than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on
>>> how you
>>> plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of
>>> hardware should be forward compatibility with up and coming
>>> technology. While you don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you
>>> do want to create a system that will not be outdated before you even
>>> power it on.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
>
>

Lil' Dave
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
Call the dog a dog, don't insinuate.
The only reply I saw with "Intel" mentioned was mine. It was not for the
processor, but the chipset.
And, yes, Intel chipset motherboards require Intel processors.
I agree that AMD makes great processors, but the big 3 chipset makers that
support these may be a bit of a problem for the newbie. Specifically, the
IDE, USB, and Firewire chips. That was my only concern in that particular
area. Maybe I don't discount the lack of experience in building as much as
others.

What is your recommendation of a chipset regarding the maker/manufacturer,
and why for a newbie builder? Am not talking about the maker of the
processor/cpu.

"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:Oy5JFykWFHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> To get more value for your $700, do consider AMD processors over the
> Intels
> recommended in another post. Intel used to rule the industry, but that
> really isn't the case these days, especially with dual-core, and Pentiums
> are somewhat overpriced.
>
> R. McCarty wrote:
>> Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
>> seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
>> will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
>> AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
>> core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
>> two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
>> to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
>> AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
>> worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big expense.
>> Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more difficult than
>> actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.
>>
>> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>>> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont
>>>> really know
>>>> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im not
>>>> sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about 700 jus
>>>> for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone could help
>>>> me and talk to me
>>>> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you
>>>> know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
>>>> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>>>>
>>>> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>> www.pcmech.com
>>>
>>> This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700 should
>>> be more
>>> than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on
>>> how you
>>> plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of
>>> hardware should be forward compatibility with up and coming
>>> technology. While you don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you
>>> do want to create a system that will not be outdated before you even
>>> power it on.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
>
>

T. Waters
07-10-2005, 12:32 AM
Sorry, I was too lazy to check if it was a dog, a python, or a paramecium!
Not criticizing your advice, just trying to deflate the Intel hype a bit. A
newbie could easily be swayed by all the advertising. Your respect for the
chipset is acknowleged.

Lil' Dave wrote:
> Call the dog a dog, don't insinuate.
> The only reply I saw with "Intel" mentioned was mine. It was not for
> the processor, but the chipset.
> And, yes, Intel chipset motherboards require Intel processors.
> I agree that AMD makes great processors, but the big 3 chipset makers
> that support these may be a bit of a problem for the newbie.
> Specifically, the IDE, USB, and Firewire chips. That was my only
> concern in that particular area. Maybe I don't discount the lack of
> experience in building as much as others.
>
> What is your recommendation of a chipset regarding the
> maker/manufacturer, and why for a newbie builder? Am not talking
> about the maker of the processor/cpu.
>
> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> news:Oy5JFykWFHA.2664@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> To get more value for your $700, do consider AMD processors over the
>> Intels
>> recommended in another post. Intel used to rule the industry, but
>> that really isn't the case these days, especially with dual-core,
>> and Pentiums are somewhat overpriced.
>>
>> R. McCarty wrote:
>>> Depending on your expected life cycle of the PC you may want to
>>> seriously think about the CPU you choose. Later this year, CPUs
>>> will switch to Dual-Core. According to what I've read, if you get a
>>> AMD 939 pin CPU it is supposed to be pin-compatible with dual
>>> core AMDs. This would allow you some upgradeability in a year or
>>> two. However, current Intel Pentium chips will not be upgradeable
>>> to their dual-core versions. Also video cards are cutting over from
>>> AGP to PCI-Express. Sometimes, you just build for today and not
>>> worry about future upgrades - But a PC is still a pretty big
>>> expense. Selecting the components for a new rig is usually more
>>> difficult than actually building up the PC - Good Luck and have Fun.
>>>
>>> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:uinDUlgWFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>>> Im really noob at all this, i want to build a computer. I dont
>>>>> really know
>>>>> waht kind of motherboard,cpu and all the other stuff to get. im
>>>>> not sure whats compatible with what. im on a tight budget about
>>>>> 700 jus for the computer no moniter. I was wondering if anyone
>>>>> could help me and talk to me
>>>>> about it from email or AIM. Or if theres any websites that you
>>>>> know of that will help me pick out what i all need.
>>>>> my email: u8mypigeon@hotmail.com AIM: u8mypigeon
>>>>>
>>>>> help would be greatly apreciated. thanks
>>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> www.pcmech.com
>>>>
>>>> This, among other sites, would be a good place to start. $700
>>>> should be more
>>>> than enough to build a good system. What you use depends largely on
>>>> how you
>>>> plan on using the system. A big consideration for your choices of
>>>> hardware should be forward compatibility with up and coming
>>>> technology. While you don't need to be on the "bleeding edge", you
>>>> do want to create a system that will not be outdated before you
>>>> even power it on.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>>>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org


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