Re: Tired of supporting friends' computers? Migrate them to GNU/Linux



Matt Buxton
07-10-2005, 12:28 AM
Or, use BartPE and get the same thing, but then you can run your Windows
compatible virus checker and other utilities too.
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

"Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez" <jkerouac@bgsec.com> wrote in message
news:4274a9a8_2@x-privat.org...
> John Bailo wrote:
>>
>> http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/29/0237254.shtml?tid=130&tid=2
>>
>> "The real challenge comes into play when you bring Microsoft Windows
>> into the equation. Contrary to popular opinion, untrained, inexperienced
>> users cannot manage Windows by themselves. It takes a knowledgeable,
>
> The best thing for this work is Knoppix.
> When some of my windows using friends gets his computer totally
> unusable they usually call me to solve it. Then I go and use
> my Knoppix CD to solve the problem. When they see it they always
> ask me for a copy of the CD. It's the best way I've found to
> convince people of using Linux. They just ask for it, you don't
> even have to tell them.
>
> Regards.
>
> --
>
> Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez
> Director Tecnico de bgSEC
> jkerouac@bgsec.com
> bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas
> http://www.bgsec.com
> ESPAŅA
>
> The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live,
> mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
> the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn
> like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
> -- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"

Jim Richardson
07-10-2005, 12:29 AM
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:52:40 GMT,
Matt Buxton <nospampleaseimbritish@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Or, use BartPE and get the same thing, but then you can run your Windows
> compatible virus checker and other utilities too.
> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>


That has much more limited hardware support, plus, Knoppix has a much better
hardware detection, and comes with a bunch of apps that I don't think
you can fit on a BartPE CD with XP.

Additionally, there are numerous LiveCDs for many uses, Like security,
education, multimedia, games, with differing target audiences, from
primary school students, to bioresearch scientists.

That's a flexibility that the MS-Windows LiveCD can't match.

With Knoppix, you get a CD that you can freely copy, and hand out to
anyone, with the MS-Windows way, you can't. Additionally, with Knoppix,
you get Open Office, and other applications, it's not just a bare OS.

As for virus checks and other utils, we have good virus checkers,
admittadly, they are used to check for MS-Windows viruses, but that's
ok, and wine runs most utilities just fine. Heck, it runs MS-Office and
IE too, if you have a need for that sort of thing.

> "Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez" <jkerouac@bgsec.com> wrote in message
> news:4274a9a8_2@x-privat.org...
>> John Bailo wrote:
>>>
>>> http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/29/0237254.shtml?tid=130&tid=2
>>>
>>> "The real challenge comes into play when you bring Microsoft Windows
>>> into the equation. Contrary to popular opinion, untrained, inexperienced
>>> users cannot manage Windows by themselves. It takes a knowledgeable,
>>
>> The best thing for this work is Knoppix.
>> When some of my windows using friends gets his computer totally
>> unusable they usually call me to solve it. Then I go and use
>> my Knoppix CD to solve the problem. When they see it they always
>> ask me for a copy of the CD. It's the best way I've found to
>> convince people of using Linux. They just ask for it, you don't
>> even have to tell them.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez
>> Director Tecnico de bgSEC
>> jkerouac@bgsec.com
>> bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas
>> http://www.bgsec.com
>> ESPAŅA
>>
>> The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live,
>> mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
>> the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn
>> like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
>> -- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"
>
>


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CS
07-10-2005, 12:29 AM
On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:18:43 -0700, Jim Richardson
<warlock@eskimo.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:52:40 GMT,
> Matt Buxton <nospampleaseimbritish@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> Or, use BartPE and get the same thing, but then you can run your Windows
>> compatible virus checker and other utilities too.
>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

>That has much more limited hardware support, plus, Knoppix has a much better
>hardware detection, and comes with a bunch of apps that I don't think
>you can fit on a BartPE CD with XP.

Knoppix is great, but remember - Knoppix can only READ from an ntfs
system whereas the BartPE can read, write, and modify ntfs files
including the registry. I wouldn't be without my BartPE CD, it's a
major tool for repairing a broken XP installation that is formatted to
ntfs. You can't repair a broken XP installation with Knoppix other
than to copy files by burning them to a CD with K3B.

(remainder of post deleted)

Jim
07-10-2005, 12:30 AM
CS wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 13:18:43 -0700, Jim Richardson
> <warlock@eskimo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:52:40 GMT,
>>Matt Buxton <nospampleaseimbritish@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>Or, use BartPE and get the same thing, but then you can run your Windows
>>>compatible virus checker and other utilities too.
>>>http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>
>
>>That has much more limited hardware support, plus, Knoppix has a much better
>>hardware detection, and comes with a bunch of apps that I don't think
>>you can fit on a BartPE CD with XP.
>
>
> Knoppix is great, but remember - Knoppix can only READ from an ntfs
> system whereas the BartPE can read, write, and modify ntfs files
> including the registry. I wouldn't be without my BartPE CD, it's a
> major tool for repairing a broken XP installation that is formatted to
> ntfs. You can't repair a broken XP installation with Knoppix other
> than to copy files by burning them to a CD with K3B.
>
> (remainder of post deleted)
>
Knoppix can now write to NTFS... using CaptiveNTFS. There's nothing to
stop it now :p

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Jim

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Re: Tired of supporting friends' computers? Migrate them to GNU/Linux