activaton question



JaXX
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows becasue it
is already on two computers.

is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
computer?

Augustus
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
"JaXX" <JaXX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D77AF63-3DB0-456F-8DD7-2D13FD176475@microsoft.com...
>i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
> computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
> another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows becasue
> it
> is already on two computers.
>
> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
> computer?

You're already in violation of the license agreement. So no, legally you
can't. And you're not supposed to have two boxes running with the same
product key and license.

Clayton
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Ring Microsft and activate it on the final machine, if you need to
reactivate on the prior machine again it will prompt you to ring Microsoft,
it's an ongoing circle if you ask me.

MS is a law into themselves, it's not what they want but it's better than
pirating I suppose. So be a honest person and format the prior machine so
all is good for these newsgroup watches/posters.




"Augustus" <augustus@wrtt.net> wrote in message
news:6eAhe.116331$3V3.26954@edtnps89...
>
> "JaXX" <JaXX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3D77AF63-3DB0-456F-8DD7-2D13FD176475@microsoft.com...
>>i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
>> computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
>> another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows
>> becasue it
>> is already on two computers.
>>
>> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
>> computer?
>
> You're already in violation of the license agreement. So no, legally you
> can't. And you're not supposed to have two boxes running with the same
> product key and license.
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
JaXX wrote:
> i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a
> 2nd computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to
> install it on another computer for the same reasons, but cannot
> activate windows becasue it is already on two computers.
>
> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the
> third computer?

http://www.microscum.com/mmpafaq/

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Augustus wrote:
> "JaXX" <JaXX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3D77AF63-3DB0-456F-8DD7-2D13FD176475@microsoft.com...
>> i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on
>> a 2nd computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to
>> install it on another computer for the same reasons, but cannot
>> activate windows becasue it
>> is already on two computers.
>>
>> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the
>> third computer?
>
> You're already in violation of the license agreement. So no, legally
> you can't. And you're not supposed to have two boxes running with the
> same product key and license.

Show one law or legal precedent that shows that it is illegal to make
and use additional copies of copyrighted material for one's own private
non-commercial use!

If you can't, then you really have NO BUSINESS telling anyone what they
legally can and can't do with their copy of software! MS's EULA is not
the law.

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Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
JaXX wrote:
> i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
> computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
> another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows becasue it
> is already on two computers.
>
> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
> computer?


You'll need to purchase a separate WinXP license for each computer
on which you install it.

Just as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and U.S.
copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if not
technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on which it
is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law to determine
final applicability in your locale.) The only way in which WinXP
licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows is that
Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft mechanism,
Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more difficult)
multiple installations using a single license.

One can buy additional licenses, assuming one already has a retail
license. Naturally, Microsoft cannot sell additional OEM licenses. Be
aware, however, that you'll probably pay more this way than you would if
you were to buy a second copy of WinXP from a discount retailer;
Microsoft will only offer you a 15% discount off their MSRP.

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Additional Licenses for Windows XP Professional
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable),
simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on and then
install it on the new computer. If it's been more than 120 days since
you last activated that specific Product Key, the you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less,
you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 11:28 PM
kurttrail wrote:

>
>
> Show one law or legal precedent that shows that it is illegal to make
> and use additional copies of copyrighted material for one's own private
> non-commercial use!
>

That's too easy!

U.S. Code TITLE 17 , CHAPTER 1 , Sec. 117.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000117----000-.html

The law clearly defines the conditions under which one can make a copy
of software, and installing it on additional computers for personal gain
(as in not having to buy another license) isn't one of those conditions.


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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:29 PM
Bruce Chambers wrote:
> kurttrail wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Show one law or legal precedent that shows that it is illegal to make
>> and use additional copies of copyrighted material for one's own
>> private non-commercial use!
>>
>
> That's too easy!
>
> U.S. Code TITLE 17 , CHAPTER 1 , Sec. 117.
> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000117----000-.html
>
> The law clearly defines the conditions under which one can make a copy
> of software, and installing it on additional computers for personal
> gain (as in not having to buy another license) isn't one of those
> conditions.

I love how you lie!

What is the title of section 117?

"Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs"

Whose exclusive rights are being limited under section 117?

The copyright owners! Under the copyright law, they are the only ones
described as having exclusive right!

Stop lying Bruce, you only look totally foolish in the process!

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Plato
07-09-2005, 11:30 PM
=?Utf-8?B?SmFYWA==?= wrote:
>
> i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
> computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
> another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows becasue it
> is already on two computers.
>
> is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
> computer?

Since you can afford PRO and 3 pcs you can afford additional keys. Buy
them.



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Winux P
07-09-2005, 11:32 PM
JaXX,

Yes,

Call Microsoft PA, ask them to activate WinXP Pro for you. After giving them
your installation ID over the phone they'll ask you, have you installed and
activated this copy before? You'll say yes, countless times. They'll say
something like, why have you reinstalled this copy of WinXP? You'll say I've
got a new computer and dismantled my other one. They will activate it for
you. This method is best with a retail version.

Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call but
you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got a more
RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall WinXP Pro
now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play dumb but
be smart. They will activate it for you.

In terms of legalities as this thread gone down, Microsoft activated Windows
on the information given to them. They must consider it as true, you told
them that this copy has been installed before in all honesty, they assumed
it was the only install. See what I mean? JaXX there's not going to be
severe penalties, punishment,... Because they cannot. The onus of proof is
on them and the only thing you have to do in this very hypothetical
(hyperbole) scenario is create doubt in the judges mind. They know they'll
loose.

-Winux P.

"JaXX" <JaXX@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D77AF63-3DB0-456F-8DD7-2D13FD176475@microsoft.com...
:i purchased Windows XP Pro a while back. i recently installed it on a 2nd
: computer due to problems with that computer. Now, i need to install it on
: another computer for the same reasons, but cannot activate windows becasue
it
: is already on two computers.
:
: is there any way i can activate windows with the same cd-key on the third
: computer?

DevilsPGD
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
In message <uGH5S$rWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Winux P"
<winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote:

>Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call but
>you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got a more
>RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall WinXP Pro
>now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play dumb but
>be smart. They will activate it for you.

Either that, or "power surge, computer wouldn't boot, returned it the
company that sold it to me and they fixed it"


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Alias
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:lthk8114ib7puq9vg5vp5jh9hhfvr00t2t@news.readfreenews.net...
> In message <uGH5S$rWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Winux P"
> <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote:
>
>>Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call but
>>you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got a
>>more
>>RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall WinXP Pro
>>now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play dumb
>>but
>>be smart. They will activate it for you.
>
> Either that, or "power surge, computer wouldn't boot, returned it the
> company that sold it to me and they fixed it"
>
>
> --
> In Jolt We Trust

Good one!

Alias

Winux P
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
LOL...

-Winux P

"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:lthk8114ib7puq9vg5vp5jh9hhfvr00t2t@news.readfreenews.net...
: In message <uGH5S$rWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Winux P"
: <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote:
:
: >Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call but
: >you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got a
more
: >RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall WinXP
Pro
: >now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play dumb
but
: >be smart. They will activate it for you.
:
: Either that, or "power surge, computer wouldn't boot, returned it the
: company that sold it to me and they fixed it"
:
:
: --
: In Jolt We Trust

Clayton
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
LOL, there goes another loophole that Microsoft will try and generate income
from


"Winux P" <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote in message
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> LOL...
>
> -Winux P
>
> "DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> news:lthk8114ib7puq9vg5vp5jh9hhfvr00t2t@news.readfreenews.net...
> : In message <uGH5S$rWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Winux P"
> : <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote:
> :
> : >Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call but
> : >you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got a
> more
> : >RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall WinXP
> Pro
> : >now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play
> dumb
> but
> : >be smart. They will activate it for you.
> :
> : Either that, or "power surge, computer wouldn't boot, returned it the
> : company that sold it to me and they fixed it"
> :
> :
> : --
> : In Jolt We Trust
>
>

Winux P
07-09-2005, 11:35 PM
Now it's not funny all the sudden... Thanks for the downer Clayton...

-Winux P

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:%23cABf9yWFHA.1508@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: LOL, there goes another loophole that Microsoft will try and generate
income
: from
:
:
: "Winux P" <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote in message
: news:eOJReKyWFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
: > LOL...
: >
: > -Winux P
: >
: > "DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
: > news:lthk8114ib7puq9vg5vp5jh9hhfvr00t2t@news.readfreenews.net...
: > : In message <uGH5S$rWFHA.2540@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Winux P"
: > : <winuxp@msnews.grp> wrote:
: > :
: > : >Now to look at the case where you may have an OEM, same phone call
but
: > : >you'll say something like, I've upgraded my graphics card, chip, got
a
: > more
: > : >RAM and bought a new USB 2.0 power cable, I decided to reinstall
WinXP
: > Pro
: > : >now its' asking me to activate within 30 days???? That's right play
: > dumb
: > but
: > : >be smart. They will activate it for you.
: > :
: > : Either that, or "power surge, computer wouldn't boot, returned it the
: > : company that sold it to me and they fixed it"
: > :
: > :
: > : --
: > : In Jolt We Trust
: >
: >
:
:


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