Anyone else get this signing on to MSN?



kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:22 PM
"Review and sign the Agreements"
"Your MSN account is governed by the following agreements and
statements, which are collectively referred to as the Agreements:"

"MSN Service
Agreement"<https://accountservices.msn.com/pphmagreement.srf>

"MSN Privacy Statement"<don't know the url, since clicking on the link
just opens up the same page in a different window>

"Click each link above to open the Agreement in a new window, and then
print or save a copy of the Agreement. If you accept all of the
Agreements, sign them as a group by typing your e-mail address in the
box below exactly as shown, including punctuation. If you do not accept
the Agreements in their entirety and without modification, click the
Cancel button to discontinue sign-up."

"By typing my e-mail address in the box above and clicking the Accept
button, I am entering into, and agreeing to be bound by, all of the
Agreements. I understand that I am creating credentials that I can use
on other sites in the Passport Network. I am consenting to receive all
information from Microsoft in electronic form only. I also agree to
receive targeted advertisements and periodic member letter e-mail
messages from MSN. I understand that if I do not accept the Agreements
in their entirety without modification, I should click the Cancel button
to discontinue sign-up."




Needless to say, I didn't agree to any of this since I can't read all
that I'm agreeing to!


This is a contract between ME and MICROSOFT!

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF LOW-LIFE CONMEN! AND I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER
TRUST A EFFIN' WORD COMING FOR YOUR COMPANY!

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Kurt
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microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

Richard Urban
07-09-2005, 11:22 PM
I don't understand where you saw this Kurt. I have a passport, use MSN
Messenger and use MSN for my home page but I don't have an MSN account - I
don't think! Was this for their internet service?

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23nzT4noVFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> "Review and sign the Agreements"
> "Your MSN account is governed by the following agreements and statements,
> which are collectively referred to as the Agreements:"
>
> "MSN Service Agreement"<https://accountservices.msn.com/pphmagreement.srf>
>
> "MSN Privacy Statement"<don't know the url, since clicking on the link
> just opens up the same page in a different window>
>
> "Click each link above to open the Agreement in a new window, and then
> print or save a copy of the Agreement. If you accept all of the
> Agreements, sign them as a group by typing your e-mail address in the box
> below exactly as shown, including punctuation. If you do not accept the
> Agreements in their entirety and without modification, click the Cancel
> button to discontinue sign-up."
>
> "By typing my e-mail address in the box above and clicking the Accept
> button, I am entering into, and agreeing to be bound by, all of the
> Agreements. I understand that I am creating credentials that I can use on
> other sites in the Passport Network. I am consenting to receive all
> information from Microsoft in electronic form only. I also agree to
> receive targeted advertisements and periodic member letter e-mail messages
> from MSN. I understand that if I do not accept the Agreements in their
> entirety without modification, I should click the Cancel button to
> discontinue sign-up."
>
>
>
>
> Needless to say, I didn't agree to any of this since I can't read all that
> I'm agreeing to!
>
>
> This is a contract between ME and MICROSOFT!
>
> YOU ARE A BUNCH OF LOW-LIFE CONMEN! AND I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER TRUST
> A EFFIN' WORD COMING FOR YOUR COMPANY!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:22 PM
Richard Urban wrote:
> I don't understand where you saw this Kurt. I have a passport, use MSN
> Messenger and use MSN for my home page but I don't have an MSN
> account - I don't think! Was this for their internet service?
>

My MSN webpage.

I just love how it asks me read and sign a page that never loads!
Totally typical!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Richard Urban wrote:
> I don't understand where you saw this Kurt. I have a passport, use MSN
> Messenger and use MSN for my home page but I don't have an MSN
> account - I don't think! Was this for their internet service?
>

I got around it by deleting everthing having to do with:

http[munged]s://accountservices.msn.com/

from my temp inet folder.

It's weird, I've gone back to that page and now can get into the privacy
statement, but I can't sign in OR OUT, for that matter, to my msn page.

I munged the address so the click happy don't get stuck in a loop.

End result is that I didn't accept anything and can now access my msn
page again.

I think the next thing I'll do is create a throw away passport and
actually accept it to see what happens next, and then abandon it!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

Richard Urban
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Is this what you saw Kurt?




Provide additional information
To sign in to MSN, you need to provide the MSN account information
below. This information will help to personalize your MSN features. You can
go to Account Services and update your account at any time. Learn more

MSN respects your privacy. Learn more about privacy




--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Personal information

Birth date:
MonthJanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember
Day12345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728293031
Example: 1999

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Until I find out what this is about I am not going there. I have has a
passport account for 3-4 years now and, until Microsoft states that this is
legitimate and states WHY this is necessary, I see no reason to
confirm/modify/change my login information!


--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:%23nzT4noVFHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> "Review and sign the Agreements"
> "Your MSN account is governed by the following agreements and
> statements, which are collectively referred to as the Agreements:"
>
> "MSN Service
> Agreement"<https://accountservices.msn.com/pphmagreement.srf>
>
> "MSN Privacy Statement"<don't know the url, since clicking on the link
> just opens up the same page in a different window>
>
> "Click each link above to open the Agreement in a new window, and then
> print or save a copy of the Agreement. If you accept all of the
> Agreements, sign them as a group by typing your e-mail address in the
> box below exactly as shown, including punctuation. If you do not accept
> the Agreements in their entirety and without modification, click the
> Cancel button to discontinue sign-up."
>
> "By typing my e-mail address in the box above and clicking the Accept
> button, I am entering into, and agreeing to be bound by, all of the
> Agreements. I understand that I am creating credentials that I can use
> on other sites in the Passport Network. I am consenting to receive all
> information from Microsoft in electronic form only. I also agree to
> receive targeted advertisements and periodic member letter e-mail
> messages from MSN. I understand that if I do not accept the Agreements
> in their entirety without modification, I should click the Cancel button
> to discontinue sign-up."
>
>
>
>
> Needless to say, I didn't agree to any of this since I can't read all
> that I'm agreeing to!
>
>
> This is a contract between ME and MICROSOFT!
>
> YOU ARE A BUNCH OF LOW-LIFE CONMEN! AND I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER
> TRUST A EFFIN' WORD COMING FOR YOUR COMPANY!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:24 PM
Richard Urban wrote:
> Is this what you saw Kurt?
>
> Provide additional information
> To sign in to MSN, you need to provide the MSN account
> information below. This information will help to personalize your MSN
> features. You can go to Account Services and update your account at
> any time. Learn more
> MSN respects your privacy. Learn more about privacy
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Personal information
>
> Birth date:
> MonthJanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember
> Day12345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728293031
> Example: 1999
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Until I find out what this is about I am not going there. I have has a
> passport account for 3-4 years now and, until Microsoft states that
> this is legitimate and states WHY this is necessary, I see no reason
> to confirm/modify/change my login information!

Here is what I saw at the page is at: accountservices.msn.com

I've made my own copy of it at:

http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/regprofileaccrual.html

All the links on the above page work but have been neutered and are
located at my domain.

The submit form has been neutered also.

Any links on any page after that go to pages at MSN.

Here is a list of those pages:

MSN Service Agreement -
http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/pphmagreement.html

MSN Summary Privacy Statement -
http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/msnsps.htm

[MSN Privacy Statement -
http://www.kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/msnps.html] actually this is
a link from the MSN Summary Privacy Statement.

Passport Network -
http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/ppnetworkhome.html

Terms of Use - http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/msntou.htm

Help - http://kurttrail.com/microscum/msnacct/help.html [Mostly broken,
just a listing of help topics]

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

tratincica
07-09-2005, 11:25 PM
I've been having the same problem for 2 or 3 days, but only with one
account. The other one works well, I mean I can get into my Hotmail
Inbox without any problems.
I can use MSN Messenger with both accounts and Messenger informs me
about new e-mails, but it is impossible to get into one Hotmail Inbox.

Deleting Temporary Internet Files temporarily solves the problem, but
on the next Sign in the problem reappears.
When I delete those TIFiles and go to www.hotmail.com the web page
looks 'normal' (I mean the window where you type your address and
password. In the other case, that window looks quite different.
One more thing - I don't understand what exactly I am accepting on that
Agreements page. I have had that account for nearly 3 years, and what am
I signing up for now??? Also, I am not using any of those pay-for
services - only the free email account
Has anyone tried to Accept or Cancel that agreement? What happened?
Thanx


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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:25 PM
tratincica wrote:
> I've been having the same problem for 2 or 3 days, but only with one
> account. The other one works well, I mean I can get into my Hotmail
> Inbox without any problems.
> I can use MSN Messenger with both accounts and Messenger informs me
> about new e-mails, but it is impossible to get into one Hotmail Inbox.
>
> Deleting Temporary Internet Files temporarily solves the problem, but
> on the next Sign in the problem reappears.
> When I delete those TIFiles and go to www.hotmail.com the web page
> looks 'normal' (I mean the window where you type your address and
> password. In the other case, that window looks quite different.
> One more thing - I don't understand what exactly I am accepting on
> that Agreements page. I have had that account for nearly 3 years, and
> what am I signing up for now??? Also, I am not using any of those
> pay-for services - only the free email account
> Has anyone tried to Accept or Cancel that agreement? What happened?
> Thanx

Make sure you delete any passport and msn cookies along with the
temporary inet files. Now that I stopped playing around, trying to
figure out what is going wrong, I have yet to be nagged by it again.

I not sure why this is happening now. I seems MS update its service
agreement a couple of months ago, but if that was the reason it should
have happened then not now.

And I have my hotmail account setup in OE, and all during the time I
could logon to my msn page, I could still send and receive my hotmail.

Weird!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"


Anyone else get this signing on to MSN?