Re: Excessive HD Space Usage! - More



Kelly
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Hi,

Back in the day several mp3 and screensaver viruses, etc were the culprits.
That said, run this combo:

Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot, CWShredder and HijackThis:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.

Added info and more to the point:

SequoiaView:
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview

How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315688

Windows XP Does Not Recognize All Available Disk Space
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;316505&ln=en-gb

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com


"geezer" <wee@willy.com> wrote in message
news:eg5281loun67qhlho9cup7tskg1ii3cfjv@4ax.com...
> When I start up WXP PRO (SP1), I find I am using some 44GB HD space.
> After I let system sit idle for an hour or two, I find that the space
> usage has grown to some 49GB!
>
> 5GB is a H of a lot of extra space usage, I have looked and looked,
> but I cannot discover the cause of this space usage. If I didn't have
> a 120GB HDD, it could be causing me problems.
>
> What can I do to home in on the cause?
>
>
> I still cannot find the cause. As I see it, if I wait long enough (ie
> if I keep XP up for a day or two), eventually all my free HDD space
> will be exhausted and the system will blow. I need to find the cause.
> The interesting thing is - If I shut down and reboot, the excessive
> space is gone, and the scenario starts over again. What I am saying
> is that at the start of a fresh boot up, my HDD space usage is quite
> correct - but not for long!
>
> Thanks

geezer
07-10-2005, 12:22 AM
On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:08:50 -0500, "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Back in the day several mp3 and screensaver viruses, etc were the culprits.
>That said, run this combo:
>
>Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot, CWShredder and HijackThis:
>http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
>
>Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.
>
>Added info and more to the point:
>
>SequoiaView:
>http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview
>
>How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in Windows XP
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315688
>
>Windows XP Does Not Recognize All Available Disk Space
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;316505&ln=en-gb



Spybot fails for me - showing:

Error during check!
Xuron55 (Datei C:\WINDOWS\win.ini\kann.nic....
Alexa Related

What do you think?

Thanks

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:22 AM
geezer wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:08:50 -0500, "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Back in the day several mp3 and screensaver viruses, etc were the
>>culprits. That said, run this combo:
>>
>>Run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot, CWShredder and HijackThis:
>>http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
>>
>>Note: Update the first two programs, once installed, before running.
>>
>>Added info and more to the point:
>>
>>SequoiaView:
>>http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview
>>
>>How to Locate and Correct Disk Space Problems on NTFS Volumes in
>>Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315688
>>
>>Windows XP Does Not Recognize All Available Disk Space
>>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-gb;316505&ln=en-gb
>
>
>
> Spybot fails for me - showing:
>
> Error during check!
> Xuron55 (Datei C:\WINDOWS\win.ini\kann.nic....
> Alexa Related
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks

That seems to be an unimportant error with Spybot. Update Spybot to the
latest version of the program and definitions. You should also be doing
all scans for malware in Safe Mode.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

geezer
07-10-2005, 12:23 AM
On Wed, 11 May 2005 14:11:13 -0700, Malke <invalid@not-real.com>
wrote:


>That seems to be an unimportant error with Spybot. Update Spybot to the
>latest version of the program and definitions. You should also be doing
>all scans for malware in Safe Mode.
>
>Malke

1) I re-tried Spybot in safe mode and got same error whatever it is.

2) I re-ran Ad-Aware SE and CWShredder also in safe mode - no errors.

3) While in safe mode, I watched c drive's space usage (in properties)
and is increased at the rate of about 15MB per minute. So - whatever
is gobbling up space is still doing it in safe mode.

4) While in safe mode, I let the system run awhile - c drive usage
increased 1.1GB in 50 minutes total.

5) In safe mode, Task Manager showed (processes):
TSCHelp.exe
taskmgr.exe
hpgs2wnf.exe
explorer.exe
svchhost.exe
svchhost.exe
svchhost.exe
lsass.exe
services.exe
winlogon.exe
csrss.exe
smss.exe
System
System Idle Process

and 'Commit/Charge' was 271M/1273M.

6) Yesterday, I let this phenomenon go for a while (in normal mode).
I had 10GB free on c drive at the start. When all of this 10GB was
used up by this culprit, the system hung. When I re-booted (powered
up), my c drive usage returned to the starting value, which then
immediately began increasing again.

I am running XP SP2 - I upgraded from SP1. I retained a backup disk
with SP1 on it, and tried it to see if this phenomenon existed there.
It did not! Could all this be due to SP2????????

Any help, from anyone, suggesting anything, will be appreciated.
I am thinking of wiping the SP2 installation, and re-installing it -
but I hate to.

Thanks

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:23 AM
geezer wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2005 14:11:13 -0700, Malke <invalid@not-real.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>That seems to be an unimportant error with Spybot. Update Spybot to
>>the latest version of the program and definitions. You should also be
>>doing all scans for malware in Safe Mode.
>>
>>Malke
>
> 1) I re-tried Spybot in safe mode and got same error whatever it is.
>
> 2) I re-ran Ad-Aware SE and CWShredder also in safe mode - no errors.
>
> 3) While in safe mode, I watched c drive's space usage (in properties)
> and is increased at the rate of about 15MB per minute. So - whatever
> is gobbling up space is still doing it in safe mode.
>
> 4) While in safe mode, I let the system run awhile - c drive usage
> increased 1.1GB in 50 minutes total.
>
> 5) In safe mode, Task Manager showed (processes):
> TSCHelp.exe
> taskmgr.exe
> hpgs2wnf.exe
> explorer.exe
> svchhost.exe
> svchhost.exe
> svchhost.exe
> lsass.exe
> services.exe
> winlogon.exe
> csrss.exe
> smss.exe
> System
> System Idle Process
>
> and 'Commit/Charge' was 271M/1273M.
>
> 6) Yesterday, I let this phenomenon go for a while (in normal mode).
> I had 10GB free on c drive at the start. When all of this 10GB was
> used up by this culprit, the system hung. When I re-booted (powered
> up), my c drive usage returned to the starting value, which then
> immediately began increasing again.
>
> I am running XP SP2 - I upgraded from SP1. I retained a backup disk
> with SP1 on it, and tried it to see if this phenomenon existed there.
> It did not! Could all this be due to SP2????????
>
> Any help, from anyone, suggesting anything, will be appreciated.
> I am thinking of wiping the SP2 installation, and re-installing it -
> but I hate to.
>
> Thanks

Why would Snagit be running in Safe Mode? Perhaps that is causing your
problem. I also don't know why HP's Share-to-Web would be running in
Safe Mode. Try disabling all the HP startup cr*p. Have you done any
clean boot troubleshooting?

Clean Boot - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=310353
and How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

geezer
07-10-2005, 12:23 AM
On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:56:00 -0700, Malke <invalid@not-real.com>
wrote:


>> 5) In safe mode, Task Manager showed (processes):
>> TSCHelp.exe
>> taskmgr.exe
>> hpgs2wnf.exe
>> explorer.exe
>> svchhost.exe
>> svchhost.exe
>> svchhost.exe
>> lsass.exe
>> services.exe
>> winlogon.exe
>> csrss.exe
>> smss.exe
>> System
>> System Idle Process
>>
>Why would Snagit be running in Safe Mode? Perhaps that is causing your
>problem. I also don't know why HP's Share-to-Web would be running in
>Safe Mode. Try disabling all the HP startup cr*p. Have you done any
>clean boot troubleshooting?
>
>Clean Boot - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=310353
> and How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP -
>http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560
>
>Malke


Which of the above processes is Snagit?

G

geezer
07-10-2005, 12:23 AM
On Thu, 12 May 2005 05:56:00 -0700, Malke <invalid@not-real.com>
wrote:

Have you done any
>clean boot troubleshooting?
>
>Clean Boot - http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=310353
> and How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP -
>http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560
>
>Malke


I just tried 'clean boot' as per MS site
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

I unchecked (in MSCONFIG) process system.ini file, process win.ini
file, load startup items, and load system services & re-booted.

The HD space problem persists, even then.

Am I ready for CLEAN RE-INSTALL?
Should I drop SP2?

Thanks

Big Geezer

Malke
07-10-2005, 12:25 AM
geezer wrote:

>
> I just tried 'clean boot' as per MS site
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560
>
> I unchecked (in MSCONFIG) process system.ini file, process win.ini
> file, load startup items, and load system services & re-booted.
>
> The HD space problem persists, even then.
>
> Am I ready for CLEAN RE-INSTALL?
> Should I drop SP2?
>
> Thanks
>
> Big Geezer

TSCHelp.exe is SnagIt, which I discovered by Googling "TSCHelp.exe". I
normally do not suggest to people posting on newsgroups that they
uninstall SP2 or clean install Windows unless they have provided enough
information that their situation is crystal-clear. This is not one of
those cases.

I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but it doesn't seem like you know
what you are doing and there may be other factors that you are not
reporting because you don't know what to look for and/or you don't
recognize them. In your case, I think your best course of action is to
take the machine to a professional computer repair shop (not your local
equivalent of BigStoreUSA).

Good luck,

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


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