Bloat on my C: drive



Dan Schaffer
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Hi,

I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of free
space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB of free
space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than about half a
GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a GB and have only
a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging file on another
partition .

Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several free
GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could compress C:,
but first I'd like to know what's going on.

Thanks in advance for help.

Dan

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Dan Schaffer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB
> of free space on that partition until today, when I have only about
> 120MB of free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not
> more than about half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to
> about half a GB and have only a small paging file on C:, with the
> rest of the paging file on another partition .
>
> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several
> free GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could
> compress C:, but first I'd like to know what's going on.

Download and use:

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

It will help you visually find larger files.

--
>=- Shenan -=<
>=- MS MVP -=<
--
The information above is intended to assist you; however, it is
suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you
are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions.
Whenever possible, the advice will include the method/places used in
compiling the answer. Also, questions may have been asked to clarify
your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
them lightly.

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Only you can look through your file system to find where the files are
located.

Not having your computer here, and not knowing what programs you have
installed and not knowing your computing habits - it is pretty hard to tell.

All I can tell you to do is to search your hard drive for them.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
news:uvxjw%23cVFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of
> free space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB of
> free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than about
> half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a GB and
> have only a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging file on
> another partition .
>
> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several free
> GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could compress C:,
> but first I'd like to know what's going on.
>
> Thanks in advance for help.
>
> Dan
>
>

Chad Harris
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Dan--

The SequoiaView Shenan suggested is good; also
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt (3rd item down)
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

If you add go to http://www.dvxp.com/favicon.ico you can pull a nice hog
icon also to class up your desktop.

Of course as Richard says, only you can find what is hogging real estate but
I can tell you some frequent usual suspects:

1) System Restore: Slilde the slider back to about 1% on the tab on Sys
Properties dialogue box--"sysdm.cpl" in run box. What was the SR team in
Redmond thinking when they defaulted to 12%. It would be great to have one
of them step up to answer that some day.

2) Recyle Bin

3) The amount of memory you have allocated--again the advanced tab on System
Properties.

4) Delete the files (as many as you can) in the %temp% folder--also can help
install conditions--use safe mode to do it if you need.

Best,

Chad Harris
___________________________________________________________

"Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
news:uvxjw%23cVFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of
> free space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB of
> free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than about
> half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a GB and
> have only a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging file on
> another partition .
>
> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several free
> GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could compress C:,
> but first I'd like to know what's going on.
>
> Thanks in advance for help.
>
> Dan
>
>

Dan Schaffer
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u2J1cDdVFHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Only you can look through your file system to find where the files are
> located.
>
> Not having your computer here, and not knowing what programs you have
> installed and not knowing your computing habits - it is pretty hard to
> tell.
>
> All I can tell you to do is to search your hard drive for them.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
>
> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
> "Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:uvxjw%23cVFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of
>> free space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB of
>> free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than about
>> half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a GB and
>> have only a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging file on
>> another partition .
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several
>> free GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could
>> compress C:, but first I'd like to know what's going on.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for help.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks, Shenan and Richard. I'll certainly follow your advice.

Since posting, I've noticed an odder symptom. I removed half a GB of data
from my C: partition, moving it to an external hard drive. But "My
computer" didn't show an increase in free space on my C: partition.

What could that mean?

Thanks again,
Dan

Richard Urban
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
It probably means that you have Norton something or other installed on your
computer. You have to empty the recycle bin - in two places when you right
click on it to do so. That will free up the space.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
news:O$WqSadVFHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u2J1cDdVFHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Only you can look through your file system to find where the files are
>> located.
>>
>> Not having your computer here, and not knowing what programs you have
>> installed and not knowing your computing habits - it is pretty hard to
>> tell.
>>
>> All I can tell you to do is to search your hard drive for them.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>>
>> aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
>>
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>>
>> "Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:uvxjw%23cVFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of
>>> free space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB
>>> of free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than
>>> about half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a
>>> GB and have only a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging
>>> file on another partition .
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several
>>> free GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could
>>> compress C:, but first I'd like to know what's going on.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for help.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks, Shenan and Richard. I'll certainly follow your advice.
>
> Since posting, I've noticed an odder symptom. I removed half a GB of data
> from my C: partition, moving it to an external hard drive. But "My
> computer" didn't show an increase in free space on my C: partition.
>
> What could that mean?
>
> Thanks again,
> Dan
>

Dan Schaffer
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
"Chad Harris" <ddram32_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OIzgVXdVFHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Dan--
>
> The SequoiaView Shenan suggested is good; also
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt (3rd item down)
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> If you add go to http://www.dvxp.com/favicon.ico you can pull a nice hog
> icon also to class up your desktop.
>
> Of course as Richard says, only you can find what is hogging real estate
> but I can tell you some frequent usual suspects:
>
> 1) System Restore: Slilde the slider back to about 1% on the tab on Sys
> Properties dialogue box--"sysdm.cpl" in run box. What was the SR team in
> Redmond thinking when they defaulted to 12%. It would be great to have
> one of them step up to answer that some day.
>
> 2) Recyle Bin
>
> 3) The amount of memory you have allocated--again the advanced tab on
> System Properties.
>
> 4) Delete the files (as many as you can) in the %temp% folder--also can
> help install conditions--use safe mode to do it if you need.
>
> Best,
>
> Chad Harris
> ___________________________________________________________
>
> "Dan Schaffer" <somerset27@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:uvxjw%23cVFHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB of
>> free space on that partition until today, when I have only about 120MB of
>> free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not more than about
>> half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited to about half a GB and
>> have only a small paging file on C:, with the rest of the paging file on
>> another partition .
>>
>> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's several
>> free GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and I could
>> compress C:, but first I'd like to know what's going on.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for help.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>
>
Thanks so much for suggesting Sequoia View. It did the job.

Here, for future reference, was the problem. I've been ripping CD's for my
new Rio mp3 player. What I didn't know was that Rio's program creates WAV
files in an obscure location while on the way to making the mp3 files. Also,
my son downloaded the world's largest mp3 while visiting over the weekend.

I can't believe how fast the problem's gone away once you guys got on it.

Dan

Shenan Stanley
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
Dan Schaffer wrote:
> I run XP Pro, SP2, which I keep on my C: partition. I had about 4GB
> of free space on that partition until today, when I have only about
> 120MB of free space. I *have* added data to the partition, but not
> more than about half a GB. I keep the system restore file limited
> to about half a GB and have only a small paging file on C:, with
> the rest of the paging file on another partition .
>
> Can anyone suggest what the source of this bloat is? There's
> several free GB that I could move from other partitions to C:, and
> I could compress C:, but first I'd like to know what's going on.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Download and use:
>
> SequoiaView
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> It will help you visually find larger files.

Chad Harris wrote:
> The SequoiaView Shenan suggested is good; also
> http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
>
> DX Hog Hunt (3rd item down)
> http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx
>
> If you add go to http://www.dvxp.com/favicon.ico you can pull a nice
> hog icon also to class up your desktop.
>
> Of course as Richard says, only you can find what is hogging real
> estate but I can tell you some frequent usual suspects:
>
> 1) System Restore: Slilde the slider back to about 1% on the tab on
> Sys Properties dialogue box--"sysdm.cpl" in run box. What was the SR
> team in Redmond thinking when they defaulted to 12%. It would be
> great to have one of them step up to answer that some day.
>
> 2) Recyle Bin
>
> 3) The amount of memory you have allocated--again the advanced tab on
> System Properties.
>
> 4) Delete the files (as many as you can) in the %temp% folder--also
> can help install conditions--use safe mode to do it if you need.

Dan Schaffer wrote:
> Thanks so much for suggesting Sequoia View. It did the job.
>
> Here, for future reference, was the problem. I've been ripping CD's
> for my new Rio mp3 player. What I didn't know was that Rio's program
> creates WAV files in an obscure location while on the way to making
> the mp3 files. Also, my son downloaded the world's largest mp3 while
> visiting over the weekend.
> I can't believe how fast the problem's gone away once you guys got on
> it.

Glad you got everything sorted out!

--
>=- Shenan -=<
>=- MS MVP -=<
--
The information above is intended to assist you; however, it is
suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you
are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions.
Whenever possible, the advice will include the method/places used in
compiling the answer. Also, questions may have been asked to clarify
your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
them lightly.

DevilsPGD
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
In message <#4SftodVFHA.3024@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> "Dan Schaffer"
<somerset27@aol.com> wrote:

>Also,
>my son downloaded the world's largest mp3 while visiting over the weekend.

Doubtful, I've got a little over 70GB of MP3 right now, all tagged and
sorted, virtually all of it averaging 192Kb or higher.

It's a hobby :)

What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
illegal, so that helps.


--
They'll say, 'You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny.'
I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd.
See? Hey, why do you think they call him Porky?
-- George Carlin

Kelly
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
>What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
>illegal, so that helps.

Just curious, but where is that?


--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com


"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:8643811aam44rpfhvne7kdup2jmdr02nur@news.readfreenews.net...
> In message <#4SftodVFHA.3024@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> "Dan Schaffer"
> <somerset27@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Also,
>>my son downloaded the world's largest mp3 while visiting over the weekend.
>
> Doubtful, I've got a little over 70GB of MP3 right now, all tagged and
> sorted, virtually all of it averaging 192Kb or higher.
>
> It's a hobby :)
>
> What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
> illegal, so that helps.
>
>
> --
> They'll say, 'You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny.'
> I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer
> Fudd.
> See? Hey, why do you think they call him Porky?
> -- George Carlin

DevilsPGD
07-10-2005, 12:21 AM
In message <OZyfWJfVFHA.548@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl> "Kelly"
<kelly@mvps.org> wrote:

>>What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
>>illegal, so that helps.
>
>Just curious, but where is that?

Canada.


--
Microsoft: Putting the PR into proprietary.

Chad Harris
07-10-2005, 12:22 AM
Kelly--

There may be a number of countries where various downloading is legal and
sometimes it gets parsed. Canadians can download but not upload.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39118537,00.htm

http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/digimusic.html

Come June, when the U.S. S. Ct. releases the tough calls at the final
deadline between June 15 and June 30, this will be an opinion to watch
closely as for as the U.S. is concerned: *MGM v. Grockster* with former
Solicitor General Ted Olson (and Clarence Thomas's best friend socially)
doing the arguing and brief filing for the industry. They could of course,
make a broad sweeping ruling or a very narrow one.

"The Supreme Court Finally Fray Between Online File Swappers And The Major
Movie And Recording Studios:
The Case of MGM v. Grokster"

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20050215.html

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/


http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/MGM_v_Grokster/

http://tinyurl.com/9sfc8

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3785847

Best,

Chad Harris
___________________________________________________________


"Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OZyfWJfVFHA.548@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
>>illegal, so that helps.
>
> Just curious, but where is that?
>
>
> --
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP)
>
> Troubleshooting Windows XP
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
>
>
> "DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> news:8643811aam44rpfhvne7kdup2jmdr02nur@news.readfreenews.net...
>> In message <#4SftodVFHA.3024@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl> "Dan Schaffer"
>> <somerset27@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Also,
>>>my son downloaded the world's largest mp3 while visiting over the
>>>weekend.
>>
>> Doubtful, I've got a little over 70GB of MP3 right now, all tagged and
>> sorted, virtually all of it averaging 192Kb or higher.
>>
>> It's a hobby :)
>>
>> What can I say though, I happen to live where downloading music isn't
>> illegal, so that helps.
>>
>>
>> --
>> They'll say, 'You can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny.'
>> I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer
>> Fudd.
>> See? Hey, why do you think they call him Porky?
>> -- George Carlin
>
>


Bloat on my C: drive