XP writes DVD's?



Gerhard
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.

Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
(like it does for CD's)?

If yes, how do I activate it?

Thanks in advance, Gerhard

P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
need, that I get confused.

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Comments inline..

Gerhard wrote:
> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.

Not bad...

> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?

No..

> If yes, how do I activate it?

See above - you don't.

> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
> than I need, that I get confused.

You are going to have to learn to use some DVD capable burning software...
Windows XP does not natively support DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW writing.

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Nero and/or Roxio.

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Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things after that.

Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties, Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the files, right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select Write these files..........

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"Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
> (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
> need, that I get confused.
>
>

Rock
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Gerhard wrote:
> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
> (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
> need, that I get confused.
>
>

No, XP has no native ability to write DVDs.

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Peter Foldes
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Opps I just saw that Doug answered you

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"Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
> (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
> need, that I get confused.
>
>

Carl G
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
I have DVD+RW and +R and windows CD writer does not recognise them.
Is it because it is a +DVD.
TIA

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"Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
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XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it once.
If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things after that.

Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties, Recording.
Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right click on the file(s)
that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To (drive letter of the DVD
drive). Once you've selected all the files, right click the DVD Drive in
Windows Explorer and select Write these files..........

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"Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
> (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
> need, that I get confused.
>
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
I doubt it. Most newer DVD drives will handle -/+ media with no problems. When you right click on the drive in Explorer and go to Properties, do you have the Recording tab? Is recording enabled if you do?

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"Carl G" <cgerving@ecenetDOTcom> wrote in message news:OqBI3acVFHA.1508@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I have DVD+RW and +R and windows CD writer does not recognise them.
> Is it because it is a +DVD.
> TIA
>
> --
> Carl G
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23zYMhHcVFHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it once.
> If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things after that.
>
> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties, Recording.
> Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right click on the file(s)
> that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To (drive letter of the DVD
> drive). Once you've selected all the files, right click the DVD Drive in
> Windows Explorer and select Write these files..........
>
> --
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> Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
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> "Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>
>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
>> (like it does for CD's)?
>>
>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>>
>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
>> need, that I get confused.
>>
>>
>
>

T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug, any idea why there is so much confusion over whether or not XP can
write DVD's? I'm thinking of the other two answers to the OP.

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
> after that.
>
> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To
> (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the files,
> right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select Write these
> files..........
>
>
> "Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>
>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>
>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>>
>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>> than I need, that I get confused.

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
T. Waters wrote:
> Doug, any idea why there is so much confusion over whether or not XP
> can write DVD's? I'm thinking of the other two answers to the OP.

I have to concur (as one of my answers is surely being referred to here.)
I have tried to write DVDs with the built-in tools before and recall it
failing.
I have not (honestly) tried in some time, but know that many things are
still not possible with the built-in tools.. Like writing to
rewritables/formatting and writing again.

I found Doug's answer enlightening, as I assumed that if I tried to use the
built-in tools it would still fail as my past experience had shown me.
It has prompted me to waste a few DVDs and give it a shot (DVD-R/RW and
DVD+R/RW. *grin*)

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> I doubt it. Most newer DVD drives will handle -/+ media with no
> problems. When you right click on the drive in Explorer and go to
> Properties, do you have the Recording tab? Is recording enabled if
> you do?

Yes. And I tried writing data files to a DVD+R disk. Windows encounter
a problem just moving files to the write folder.

I then threw in a CDRW disk into the DVDwriter, and had no problems
adding files to the write folder, and then to the DVD.

I think you are mistaken, XP will only write to CD media natively, and
even with a DVD Writer, it will only burn to CD media.

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Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's are treated just like CD's.

But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.

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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eYLF3EdVFHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> T. Waters wrote:
>> Doug, any idea why there is so much confusion over whether or not XP
>> can write DVD's? I'm thinking of the other two answers to the OP.
>
> I have to concur (as one of my answers is surely being referred to here.)
> I have tried to write DVDs with the built-in tools before and recall it
> failing.
> I have not (honestly) tried in some time, but know that many things are
> still not possible with the built-in tools.. Like writing to
> rewritables/formatting and writing again.
>
> I found Doug's answer enlightening, as I assumed that if I tried to use the
> built-in tools it would still fail as my past experience had shown me.
> It has prompted me to waste a few DVDs and give it a shot (DVD-R/RW and
> DVD+R/RW. *grin*)
>
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>>=- MS MVP -=<
> --
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> suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you
> are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions.
> Whenever possible, the advice will include the method/places used in
> compiling the answer. Also, questions may have been asked to clarify
> your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
> them lightly.
>
>

Carl G
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Yes , i made sure it was cheked.

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"Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
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I doubt it. Most newer DVD drives will handle -/+ media with no problems.
When you right click on the drive in Explorer and go to Properties, do you
have the Recording tab? Is recording enabled if you do?

--
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Display\Security
Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
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"Carl G" <cgerving@ecenetDOTcom> wrote in message
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>I have DVD+RW and +R and windows CD writer does not recognise them.
> Is it because it is a +DVD.
> TIA
>
> --
> Carl G
> "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23zYMhHcVFHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it once.
> If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things after that.
>
> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
> Recording.
> Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right click on the file(s)
> that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To (drive letter of the DVD
> drive). Once you've selected all the files, right click the DVD Drive in
> Windows Explorer and select Write these files..........
>
> --
> Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
> Display\Security
> Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
> http://www.dougknox.com
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> "Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>
>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
>> (like it does for CD's)?
>>
>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>>
>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
>> need, that I get confused.
>>
>>
>
>

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's are
> treated just like CD's.
>
> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.

I would say you saved me from trying.. But my curiosity will probably get
the best of me. *grin*

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Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's are
> treated just like CD's.
>
> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.

I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx

The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's are
>> treated just like CD's.
>>
>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
>> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.
>
> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>
> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>
> --
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>> =- MS MVP -=<

How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?


"Supported Uses By Media Type"
"The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media that
Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx

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Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Gerhard wrote:
> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
> than I need, that I get confused.

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
> after that.
>
> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To
> (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the files,
> right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select Write these
> files..........

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
> are treated just like CD's.
> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>
> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)

kurttrail wrote:
> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>
> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media that
> Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx

If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows XP, it is
shown with the letters XP being in the associated square.. Anything else is
not available natively in XP but planned on for later.

Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from the
chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP - no other DVD
writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.

It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following the
thread to see the correlation, I suppose.

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kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Gerhard wrote:
>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>
>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>
>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>
>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>> than I need, that I get confused.
>
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
>> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
>> after that.
>>
>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To
>> (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the files,
>> right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select Write these
>> files..........
>
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>> are treated just like CD's.
>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
>> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>
>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>
> kurttrail wrote:
>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>>
>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media that
>> Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>
> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated square..
> Anything else is not available natively in XP but planned on for
> later.
> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
> natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from
> the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP - no
> other DVD writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.
>
> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following
> the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>

The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?

Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have DVD-RAM
drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?

Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data DVD
could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he was full
of it.

I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.

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Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Thanks! Thank the powers that be for packet writing software :)

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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e7mx3WdVFHA.2572@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's are
>> treated just like CD's.
>>
>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
>> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.
>
> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>
> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>
> --
>>=- Shenan -=<
>>=- MS MVP -=<
> --
> The information above is intended to assist you; however, it is
> suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you
> are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions.
> Whenever possible, the advice will include the method/places used in
> compiling the answer. Also, questions may have been asked to clarify
> your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
> them lightly.
>
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need <G>

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:OtB8vAeVFHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Gerhard wrote:
>>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>>
>>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>>
>>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>>
>>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>>> than I need, that I get confused.
>>
>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
>>> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
>>> after that.
>>>
>>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To
>>> (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the files,
>>> right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select Write these
>>> files..........
>>
>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>>> are treated just like CD's.
>>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It appears
>>> that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any confusion.
>>
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>
>>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>>
>> kurttrail wrote:
>>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>>>
>>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media that
>>> Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>
>> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
>> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated square..
>> Anything else is not available natively in XP but planned on for
>> later.
>> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
>> natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from
>> the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP - no
>> other DVD writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.
>>
>> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following
>> the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>>
>
> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>
> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have DVD-RAM
> drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>
> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data DVD
> could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he was full
> of it.
>
> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
kurttrail wrote:
> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>
> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have DVD-RAM
> drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>
> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data
> DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he
> was full of it.
>
> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.

I did say that originally - however, when Doug said otherwise, I started
wondering. heh

As for MO media.. "Magnetic Optical". I used to have a 230MB MO drive..
Still have the disks lying around somewhere.

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your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
them lightly.

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
> <G>
>

Hey, after my wild goose chase trying to see if it would work on you say
so, you might just end up next to Carey! :)

Just Joking. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes from time to time.
Actually, it can be a good thing on occasion. I've always learned more
from my mistakes than from being right.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> kurttrail wrote:
>> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>>
>> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
>> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have
>> DVD-RAM drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>>
>> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data
>> DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he
>> was full of it.
>>
>> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>
> I did say that originally - however, when Doug said otherwise, I
> started wondering. heh

Me too!

>
> As for MO media.. "Magnetic Optical". I used to have a 230MB MO
> drive.. Still have the disks lying around somewhere.

Thanks! I though it was somthing like that.

Oh, and congrats on the MVP award! It is well-deserved.

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Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
kurttrail wrote:
> Oh, and congrats on the MVP award! It is well-deserved.

Thanks Kurt!

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them lightly.

Kelly
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Yikes, Doug vs. Carey! <j/k>

As for Shenan:

Your sig is almost as bad as the Microsoft TomCat posts. :o(

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:eFl$pXeVFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
>> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
>> <G>
>>
>
> Hey, after my wild goose chase trying to see if it would work on you say
> so, you might just end up next to Carey! :)
>
> Just Joking. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes from time to time.
> Actually, it can be a good thing on occasion. I've always learned more
> from my mistakes than from being right.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
My Congrats, as well!!

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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uwkSwbeVFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> kurttrail wrote:
>> Oh, and congrats on the MVP award! It is well-deserved.
>
> Thanks Kurt!
>
> --
>>=- Shenan -=<
>>=- MS MVP -=<
> --
> The information above is intended to assist you; however, it is
> suggested you research for yourself before you take any advice - you
> are the one ultimately responsible for your actions/problems/solutions.
> Whenever possible, the advice will include the method/places used in
> compiling the answer. Also, questions may have been asked to clarify
> your situation OR to give you an idea of where to look - do not dismiss
> them lightly.
>
>

Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Hey, I've been on Kadiacatchita (or however the hell you spell it) Man's "Wall of Shame"! Nothing new!! <G>

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"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:eFl$pXeVFHA.1152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
>> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
>> <G>
>>
>
> Hey, after my wild goose chase trying to see if it would work on you say
> so, you might just end up next to Carey! :)
>
> Just Joking. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes from time to time.
> Actually, it can be a good thing on occasion. I've always learned more
> from my mistakes than from being right.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Kelly wrote:
> Yikes, Doug vs. Carey! <j/k>
>
> As for Shenan:
> Your sig is almost as bad as the Microsoft TomCat posts. :o(

Hmmm.. I cannot say I can place the reference.
But the point is taken. =)

--
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>=- MS MVP -=<
--

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
kurttrail wrote:
> Oh, and congrats on the MVP award! It is well-deserved.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Thanks Kurt!

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> My Congrats, as well!!

Thank you's to you, Doug!

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them lightly.

Kelly
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Here is an example:

| X-Tomcat-ID: 47846881
| > | References: <OuVynuNTFHA.1896@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>
| > <eurqOIOTFHA.2680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
| > <#1E85KPTFHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>
| > <aqOgHJWTFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
| > | MIME-Version: 1.0
| > | Content-Type: text/plain
| > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | From: v-haozou@online.microsoft.com (Kenxl Zou (MSFT))
| > | Organization: Microsoft
| > | Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 02:30:00 GMT
| > | Subject: Re: How to close open ports
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
| > | Message-ID: <zDGE6f4TFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
| > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
| > | Lines: 75
| > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:380187
| > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TOMCATIMPORT1 10.201.218.122
| > |
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uJPJK9eVFHA.548@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Kelly wrote:
>> Yikes, Doug vs. Carey! <j/k>
>>
>> As for Shenan:
>> Your sig is almost as bad as the Microsoft TomCat posts. :o(
>
> Hmmm.. I cannot say I can place the reference.
> But the point is taken. =)
>
> --
>>=- Shenan -=<
>>=- MS MVP -=<
> --
>
>

T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug, thanks for being a lighning rod in this discussion! Hope your hair is
OK. <G>
To add fuel to the fire (and lacking a DVD recorder), what do we make of
this statement from "Windows XP Inside Out":
"Back up to a CD or DVD
Windows XP Backup Utility does not support backing up directly to CD or DVD
recorders. However, if you plan your backups carefully, you can accomplish
the same goal in a two-step process. Back up to a file first, and then copy
that backup file to a recordable CD or DVD. If you need to restore data from
your backup set, you can do so directly from the CD or DVD. For this
procedure to work, you must ensure that you have enough free disk space to
hold your backup files; you also have to plan your backups so that the
resulting backup files will fit onto the target media. If you’re backing up
to CDs, for example, this might entail reorganizing your backup sets into
multiple groups, with each one under 650 MB in size."
True or false?

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
> <G>
>
>
> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
> message news:OtB8vAeVFHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Gerhard wrote:
>>>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>>>
>>>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>>>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>>>
>>>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>>>
>>>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>>>> than I need, that I get confused.
>>>
>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
>>>> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
>>>> after that.
>>>>
>>>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>>>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>>>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send
>>>> To (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the
>>>> files, right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select
>>>> Write these files..........
>>>
>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>>>> are treated just like CD's.
>>>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It
>>>> appears that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any
>>>> confusion.
>>>
>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>
>>>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>>>
>>> kurttrail wrote:
>>>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>>>>
>>>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>>>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media
>>>> that Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>
>>> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
>>> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated square..
>>> Anything else is not available natively in XP but planned on for
>>> later.
>>> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
>>> natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from
>>> the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP -
>>> no other DVD writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.
>>>
>>> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following
>>> the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>>>
>>
>> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>>
>> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
>> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have
>> DVD-RAM drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>>
>> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data
>> DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he
>> was full of it.
>>
>> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Kelly wrote:
> Here is an example:
>
>> X-Tomcat-ID: 47846881
>>>> References: <OuVynuNTFHA.1896@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>
>>> <eurqOIOTFHA.2680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>
>>> <#1E85KPTFHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>
>>> <aqOgHJWTFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>> From: v-haozou@online.microsoft.com (Kenxl Zou (MSFT))
>>>> Organization: Microsoft
>>>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 02:30:00 GMT
>>>> Subject: Re: How to close open ports
>>>> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>>> Message-ID: <zDGE6f4TFHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
>>>> Lines: 75
>>>> Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
>>>> Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
>>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:380187 NNTP-Posting-Host:
>>>> TOMCATIMPORT1 10.201.218.122
> =====================================================
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> so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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> rights.

Ah. Ouch.

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Doug Knox MS-MVP
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
For CD's, there's no problem. For DVD's, it could be a documentation error. Or it could be an assumption that anyone with a DVD drive has some type of software to create data DVD's installed.

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"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message news:eJp%23NHfVFHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Doug, thanks for being a lighning rod in this discussion! Hope your hair is
> OK. <G>
> To add fuel to the fire (and lacking a DVD recorder), what do we make of
> this statement from "Windows XP Inside Out":
> "Back up to a CD or DVD
> Windows XP Backup Utility does not support backing up directly to CD or DVD
> recorders. However, if you plan your backups carefully, you can accomplish
> the same goal in a two-step process. Back up to a file first, and then copy
> that backup file to a recordable CD or DVD. If you need to restore data from
> your backup set, you can do so directly from the CD or DVD. For this
> procedure to work, you must ensure that you have enough free disk space to
> hold your backup files; you also have to plan your backups so that the
> resulting backup files will fit onto the target media. If you’re backing up
> to CDs, for example, this might entail reorganizing your backup sets into
> multiple groups, with each one under 650 MB in size."
> True or false?
>
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
>> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
>> <G>
>>
>>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:OtB8vAeVFHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>> Gerhard wrote:
>>>>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>>>>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>>>>
>>>>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>>>>> than I need, that I get confused.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
>>>>> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
>>>>> after that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>>>>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>>>>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send
>>>>> To (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the
>>>>> files, right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select
>>>>> Write these files..........
>>>>
>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>>>>> are treated just like CD's.
>>>>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It
>>>>> appears that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any
>>>>> confusion.
>>>>
>>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>>>>
>>>> kurttrail wrote:
>>>>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>>>>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media
>>>>> that Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
>>>> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated square..
>>>> Anything else is not available natively in XP but planned on for
>>>> later.
>>>> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
>>>> natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from
>>>> the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP -
>>>> no other DVD writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.
>>>>
>>>> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following
>>>> the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>>>
>>> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
>>> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have
>>> DVD-RAM drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>>>
>>> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data
>>> DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he
>>> was full of it.
>>>
>>> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> Hey, I've been on Kadiacatchita (or however the hell you spell it)
> Man's "Wall of Shame"! Nothing new!! <G>
>

Actually, you are better off not being able to spell it. The couple of
time I did, the posts ended up getting pulled from the server.

And it seems as if he has taken down his "Peanut Gallery" for over a
month now.

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Peter Foldes
07-09-2005, 11:22 PM
Congratulations

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T. Waters
07-09-2005, 11:22 PM
Thanks, Doug.

Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
> For CD's, there's no problem. For DVD's, it could be a documentation
> error. Or it could be an assumption that anyone with a DVD drive has
> some type of software to create data DVD's installed.
>
>
> "T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
> news:eJp%23NHfVFHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Doug, thanks for being a lighning rod in this discussion! Hope your
>> hair is OK. <G>
>> To add fuel to the fire (and lacking a DVD recorder), what do we
>> make of this statement from "Windows XP Inside Out":
>> "Back up to a CD or DVD
>> Windows XP Backup Utility does not support backing up directly to CD
>> or DVD recorders. However, if you plan your backups carefully, you
>> can accomplish the same goal in a two-step process. Back up to a
>> file first, and then copy that backup file to a recordable CD or
>> DVD. If you need to restore data from your backup set, you can do so
>> directly from the CD or DVD. For this procedure to work, you must
>> ensure that you have enough free disk space to hold your backup
>> files; you also have to plan your backups so that the resulting
>> backup files will fit onto the target media. If you’re backing up to
>> CDs, for example, this might entail reorganizing your backup sets
>> into multiple groups, with each one under 650 MB in size."
>> True or false?
>>
>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
>>> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the
>>> need <G>
>>>
>>>
>>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>>> message news:OtB8vAeVFHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>>> Gerhard wrote:
>>>>>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing
>>>>>> data DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much
>>>>>> more than I need, that I get confused.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write
>>>>>> it once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add
>>>>>> things after that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>>>>>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>>>>>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send
>>>>>> To (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the
>>>>>> files, right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select
>>>>>> Write these files..........
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>>>>>> are treated just like CD's.
>>>>>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It
>>>>>> appears that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any
>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>>>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>>>>>
>>>>> kurttrail wrote:
>>>>>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this
>>>>>> group?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>>>>>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media
>>>>>> that Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
>>>>> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated
>>>>> square.. Anything else is not available natively in XP but
>>>>> planned on for later.
>>>>> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can
>>>>> do natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see
>>>>> from the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in
>>>>> Windows XP - no other DVD writing capabilities are listed as
>>>>> available in XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and
>>>>> following the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>>>>
>>>> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
>>>> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have
>>>> DVD-RAM drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>>>>
>>>> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said
>>>> Data DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just
>>>> said he was full of it.
>>>>
>>>> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peace!
>>>> Kurt
>>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

Lil' Dave
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
You appear a bit confused. XP will treat a DVD writer just like a CD
writer. And, in that context, the DVD writer will only write to CDs.
That's as far as it goes. Writing to a DVD ***Media*** is beyond XP's
built-in capabilities. Whether the media is + or - has no bearing in that
statement. Whether UDF, or ISO 9660 format has no bearing either. Whether
the DVD writer is +/-, dual layer capable has no bearing either.

"Doug Knox MS-MVP" <dknox@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23zYMhHcVFHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it once.
If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things after that.

Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties, Recording.
Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right click on the file(s)
that you want to copy to DVD and select Send To (drive letter of the DVD
drive). Once you've selected all the files, right click the DVD Drive in
Windows Explorer and select Write these files..........

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"Gerhard" <gfheiche@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uAGRSEcVFHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>
> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data DVD's
> (like it does for CD's)?
>
> If yes, how do I activate it?
>
> Thanks in advance, Gerhard
>
> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more than I
> need, that I get confused.
>
>

kurttrail
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Lil' Dave wrote:
> You appear a bit confused. XP will treat a DVD writer just like a CD
> writer. And, in that context, the DVD writer will only write to CDs.
> That's as far as it goes. Writing to a DVD ***Media*** is beyond XP's
> built-in capabilities. Whether the media is + or - has no bearing in
> that statement. Whether UDF, or ISO 9660 format has no bearing
> either. Whether the DVD writer is +/-, dual layer capable has no
> bearing either.

And he has already apologized for any confusion he caused.

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Kelly
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
No problem and great to see the change!!! :o)

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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kelly wrote:
>> Here is an example:
>>
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> Ah. Ouch.
>
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Kelly
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
His hair is fine. Take a break from this group, we could all use it.

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"T. Waters" <@$%$%#^@jdjgkl.com> wrote in message
news:eJp%23NHfVFHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Doug, thanks for being a lighning rod in this discussion! Hope your hair
> is
> OK. <G>
> To add fuel to the fire (and lacking a DVD recorder), what do we make of
> this statement from "Windows XP Inside Out":
> "Back up to a CD or DVD
> Windows XP Backup Utility does not support backing up directly to CD or
> DVD
> recorders. However, if you plan your backups carefully, you can accomplish
> the same goal in a two-step process. Back up to a file first, and then
> copy
> that backup file to a recordable CD or DVD. If you need to restore data
> from
> your backup set, you can do so directly from the CD or DVD. For this
> procedure to work, you must ensure that you have enough free disk space to
> hold your backup files; you also have to plan your backups so that the
> resulting backup files will fit onto the target media. If you're backing
> up
> to CDs, for example, this might entail reorganizing your backup sets into
> multiple groups, with each one under 650 MB in size."
> True or false?
>
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>> I thought it could, Kurt, but apparently mis-remembered. Nobody's
>> perfect :-) Feel free to put me next to Carey, if you feel the need
>> <G>
>>
>>
>> "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
>> message news:OtB8vAeVFHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>> Gerhard wrote:
>>>>> I recently installed a Pioneer DVR A09XL internal DVD/CD writer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does Windows XP Pro with SP2 include the software for writing data
>>>>> DVD's (like it does for CD's)?
>>>>>
>>>>> If yes, how do I activate it?
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. The Pioneer came with Ulead software, which does so much more
>>>>> than I need, that I get confused.
>>>>
>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>> XP will treat a DVD just like a CD. If its DVD-R, you can write it
>>>>> once. If its DVD-RW, you can write to it, but you can't add things
>>>>> after that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right click the DVD drive in Windows Explorer, select Properties,
>>>>> Recording. Ensure that recording is enabled. After that, right
>>>>> click on the file(s) that you want to copy to DVD and select Send
>>>>> To (drive letter of the DVD drive). Once you've selected all the
>>>>> files, right click the DVD Drive in Windows Explorer and select
>>>>> Write these files..........
>>>>
>>>> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>>>>> Its been a while since I tried it, but I'm pretty sure that DVD's
>>>>> are treated just like CD's.
>>>>> But, I just tried it.......... no joy through Explorer. It
>>>>> appears that I may be mis-remembering. My apologies for any
>>>>> confusion.
>>>>
>>>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>>>> I knew I had this link SOMEWHERE..
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> The chart is the most useful part.. (scroll down the web page.)
>>>>
>>>> kurttrail wrote:
>>>>> How is the Longhorn chart useful yet to the readers of this group?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Supported Uses By Media Type"
>>>>> "The following table shows the formats and uses of optical media
>>>>> that Microsoft plans to support in Windows 'Longhorn.'" -
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/dvd/DVDRW_support.mspx
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the chart - if it is currently available in Windows
>>>> XP, it is shown with the letters XP being in the associated square..
>>>> Anything else is not available natively in XP but planned on for
>>>> later.
>>>> Therefore, if used in reference to this thread about what you can do
>>>> natively with Windows XP and writing DVDs, you can clearly see from
>>>> the chart that only DVD-RAM is partially supported in Windows XP -
>>>> no other DVD writing capabilities are listed as available in XP.
>>>>
>>>> It's a matter of viewing the chart and applying logic and following
>>>> the thread to see the correlation, I suppose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The chart is confusing. And what is MO media?
>>>
>>> Just easier to say that XP doesn't support writing to DVD, except
>>> DVD-RAM formatted to FAT32. And how many people actually have
>>> DVD-RAM drives, that it is really worth mentioning it?
>>>
>>> Hell, I only tried burning to DVD because it was Doug that said Data
>>> DVD could be burned. Had it been Carey, I would have just said he
>>> was full of it.
>>>
>>> I thought is was fairly common knowledge that XP didn't burn DVDs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace!
>>> Kurt
>>> Self-anointed Moderator
>>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>>> http://microscum.com/mscommunity
>>> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
>>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
>
>
>

Rock
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Shenan Stanley wrote:

> kurttrail wrote:
>
>>Oh, and congrats on the MVP award! It is well-deserved.
>
>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>
>>Thanks Kurt!
>
>
> Doug Knox MS-MVP wrote:
>
>>My Congrats, as well!!
>
>
> Thank you's to you, Doug!
>

Congratulations Shenan!....excellent.

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Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Peter Foldes wrote:
> Congratulations

Thank you Peter!

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Shenan Stanley
07-09-2005, 11:23 PM
Rock wrote:
> Congratulations Shenan!....excellent.

Thanks Rock!

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XP writes DVD's?