Quake, Starcraft, & SIMS Can't Be Played On Other Than An Administrator Account



Stuart Rovin
07-09-2005, 09:10 PM
Hi All,
I'm sure this problem has been addressed before, but I am new to newsgroups.
I have installed these games listed in the subject, but they only work some
of the item in "limited accounts" i.e. non-administrator accounts, and when
they do work in a limited account, they don't work properly i.e. can't save
your game, etc. I've heard rumors that it has something to do with Windows
XP. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?

Thanks,
Stu

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
07-09-2005, 09:10 PM
Hi Stu,

See http://rickrogers.org/xpsware.htm for assistance in resolving these
matters.

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Stuart Rovin" <stuart.rovin@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:viPhe.172$kj7.146@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Hi All,
> I'm sure this problem has been addressed before, but I am new to
> newsgroups.
> I have installed these games listed in the subject, but they only work
> some of the item in "limited accounts" i.e. non-administrator accounts,
> and when they do work in a limited account, they don't work properly i.e.
> can't save your game, etc. I've heard rumors that it has something to do
> with Windows XP. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
> Stu
>
>

Star Fleet Admiral Q
07-09-2005, 09:10 PM
Scuttlebutt's wrong, it has nothing to do with XP, it has to do with either
a) how your XP security settings are configured and/or b) how the programmer
wrote the software. It most likely lies more with b) than a), as game
programmers tend to believe their software needs more access than it really
needs or they just haven't learned how to program properly for an NT OS,
although it could lie somewhere in between.

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"Stuart Rovin" <stuart.rovin@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:viPhe.172$kj7.146@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Hi All,
> I'm sure this problem has been addressed before, but I am new to
> newsgroups.
> I have installed these games listed in the subject, but they only work
> some of the item in "limited accounts" i.e. non-administrator accounts,
> and when they do work in a limited account, they don't work properly i.e.
> can't save your game, etc. I've heard rumors that it has something to do
> with Windows XP. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
> Stu
>
>

Bruce Chambers
07-09-2005, 09:10 PM
Stuart Rovin wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm sure this problem has been addressed before, but I am new to newsgroups.
> I have installed these games listed in the subject, but they only work some
> of the item in "limited accounts" i.e. non-administrator accounts, and when
> they do work in a limited account, they don't work properly i.e. can't save
> your game, etc. I've heard rumors that it has something to do with Windows
> XP. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
> Stu
>
>


You may experience some problems if the software was designed for
Win9x/Me, or if it was intended for WinNT/2K/XP, but was improperly
designed. Quite simply, the installation routine for this application
doesn't "know" how to handle individual user profiles, or the
application tries to make changes to "off-limits" sections of the
registry or protected Windows system folders. Quite often, you can make
this software available to other users by _copying_ the Start Menu
folder and Desktop folder shortcuts from the user profile from which the
software was installed in the corresponding folders in the user
profile(s) in which you'd like the software to be accessible. If the
application is something that can/should be made available to all
current and future users, copying the shortcuts into the corresponding
locations of the All Users profile will do the trick.

For some obscure reason, game developers in particular seem to not
understand WinXP's file security paradigm, and require even limited
users to have unnecessarily high privileges to protected systems
folders. For example, saved games are often stored in a sub-folder
under the game's folder within C:\Program Files - a place where no
inexperienced or limited user should ever have write permissions.

NOTE: This may not work if the software requires access to parts
of the hard drive and/or registry that are not normally accessible to
regular users. (This won't occur if the application was properly
written.) If this does prove to be the case, however, you're left with
two options: Either grant the necessary users appropriate higher access
privileges (either as Power Users or local administrators), or replace
the application with one that was properly designed specifically for
WinNT/2K/XP.

Some Programs Do Not Work If You Log On from Limited Account
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q307091

Additionally, here are a couple of tips suggested, in a reply to a
different post, by MS-MVP Kent W. England:

"If your game or application works with admin accounts, but not with
limited accounts, you can fix it to allow limited users to access the
program files folder with "change" capability rather than "read" which
is the default.

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:c

where "appfolder" is the folder where the application is installed.

If you wish to undo these changes, then run

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:r

If you still have a problem with running the program or saving
settings on limited accounts, you may need to change permissions on
the registry keys. Run regedit.exe and go to HKLM\Software\vendor\app,
where "vendor\app" is the key that the software vendor used for your
specific program. Change the permissions on this key to allow Users
full control."


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Quake, Starcraft, & SIMS Can't Be Played On Other Than An Administrator Account